A very nice article by David MacLean on this subject: http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/fair-society-t-afford-secrets/story-14287575-detail/story.html
A quick read and a nice foil for the silly season santa story. Seb On 27 December 2011 23:28, Owen Blacker <[email protected]> wrote: > Personally, whilst I can see the appeal, I think it's a terrible idea. > (Sorry 'n' all.) > > Why should new users not be able to make an FOI request without members of a > bunch of established users allowing it? Sure, some users make vexatious > requests, but most don't. And, frankly, that process is annoying enough on > Stack Overflow. > > As Paul Perrin mentioned, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. > If FOI Officers are too stupid to spend only a few pence pasting a standard > "sod off" response immediately they receive a vexatious request, that's > their problem. Plenty of questions can seem vexatious, but would prove not > to be based on the answer they get. > > The idea that asking about "witches, werewolves, wizards, ghosts, vampires, > zombies and demons" is intrinsically expensive and A Big Problem™ is > ludicrous and I do not think we should be making things more difficult for > our users because some reactionary fools are trying to find pretexts to > attack our FOI law. > -- > Owen Blacker, London GB > @owenblacker > www.mysociety.org > Google ID: [email protected] > > > > On 23 December 2011 14:53, Stephen Booth <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 23 December 2011 14:06, Simon Haywood <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> </lurk> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> stuff like, eg: >>> >>> For first-time users of WDTK, force their request to go to peer-review >>> first. Other users of the site would advise if it was a well written >>> request, or maybe if it had already been sent - or perhaps even if the >>> information was easily available through other means. Once a user had been >>> through a number of requests, their status would be elevated, and they >>> wouldn't require the review. Whether you'd actually block requests that >>> didn't pass the "peer test", would be a debate for WDTK. >> >> >> Personally I like that. Might I suggest also a Slashdot style peer >> modding. Start new users with a negative score, to send without a peer >> review you need a positive score, users witha positive score can send >> requests without requiring a peer review and users who's score is above a >> certain (quite low) value can mod requests (sent or requiring peer review) >> up or down. Adapt the system for watching authorities so that requests >> requiring peer review are at the top of the digest and encourage users to >> review them and mod them appropriately. Users who ask well formed, useful >> and relevant requests will acheive a positive score quite quickly but if >> they start asking frivilous questions risk being modded down and going >> negative. Maybe limit the maximum impact one request can have on a person's >> score. e.g. if we start new users at -10 limit the maximum impact the score >> for a single request to +/- 5 so that they have to have at least 2 requests >> peer reviewed and modded up by 5 or more people each before they can send an >> unreviewed request and three (or more depending on where the bar is set) >> modded up before they can start modding themselves. >> >> Stephen >> >> -- >> It's better to ask a silly question than to make a silly assumption. >> >> http://stephensorablog.blogspot.com/ | >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenboothuk | Skype: stephenbooth_uk >> >> Apparently I'm a "Eierlegende Woll-Milch-Sau", I think it was meant as a >> compliment. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> developers-public mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public >> >> Unsubscribe: >> https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/options/developers-public/owen%40blacker.me.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > developers-public mailing list > [email protected] > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public > > Unsubscribe: > https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/options/developers-public/seb.bacon%40gmail.com -- skype: seb.bacon mobile: 07790 939224 land: 01531 671074 _______________________________________________ developers-public mailing list [email protected] https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/developers-public Unsubscribe: https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/options/developers-public/archive%40mail-archive.com
