So what do you think the Open Data User Group should be working on?  I am
sure they would be very keen to get your input. They are focusing on
location and the PAF following consultation with a broad network.

But maybe this is not working as well as it should?
On Feb 4, 2013 7:31 PM, "Stefan Magdalinski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I think, to all practical purposes, that we did eventually win this
> particular fight.
>
> Stef
>
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 16:15, Matt Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Just to play devil's advocate here, what's wrong with the free Ordnance
> Survey API (other than its inscrutable JSON responses)? I can imagine that
> it will be held up defensively by any ministers contacted by this campaign.
>
> http://data.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/doc/postcodeunit/SO164GU
>
> Is it that it's:
>
>    - too incomplete (it doesn't resolve to a street name, just lat/long,
>    country, district and ward),
>    - not authoritative (as in, Royal Mail is the original source of post
>    codes),
>    - not downloadable,
>    - or that the Open Government License it's released under is
>    insufficiently open?
>    - Something else?
>
> I used it commercially and non-commercially to provide lat/long lookup for
> postcodes. It's been pretty good.
>
> Secondly, "The Royal Mail can’t be allowed to exploit this information for
> commercial gain" is pretty contentious (I'm not sure that's intentional). I
> think it would be better to argue that Royal Mail shouldn't be able to
> withhold this data. After all why shouldn't Royal Mail build profitable (or
> at least self-sustaining) services on top of open data? We'll certainly be
> trying to!
>
> --
> Matt Robinson
> https://lazycat.org/
>
> On 4 Feb 2013, at 13:22, Owen Blacker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Javier Ruiz <[email protected]>
> Date: 4 February 2013 13:06
> Subject: [Okfn-en] Help open up the postcode dataset
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>
> […]
>
> Data about UK addresses is still locked down, unavailable to the general
> public and only accessible with an expensive and complex annual license
> from the Royal Mail. Innovators are being discouraged from putting this
> core reference data to creative use. British businesses and public services
> have to cope with the unnecessary burden of applying and paying for access
> to location data.
>
>
> The Open Data Users Group, a governmental advisory group, has just released
> a report 
> <http://data.gov.uk/blog/odug-progress-on-a-national-address-dataset>calling
> for a public and open National Address Dataset to replace the restrictive
> database that we have now.
> […]
> Location data is a critical national asset. The Royal Mail can’t be
> allowed to exploit this information for commercial gain. Instead, the
> government should make this data freely available as part of our national
> public infrastructure.
>
> Ministers will try to hide behind the argument that these issues only
> concern a minority of technical experts. This just isn’t true. We need your
> help to show them that British citizens are well aware of the crucial
> importance of this data and are ready to be vocal about it.
>
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