I understand your concern. If you paid and spent time on hot fixes then It would look a bit strange if Microsoft just " stole" these changes. I can tell you that we will not do that.
Personally I use the information I receive in these forums in my daily work supporting our partners and customers.
Have a nice day.
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Kim Truelsen
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From: Theissen, Annette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15. september 2004 10:59
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: AW: [development-axapta] Documentation of classes and tables
Hi Kim,
sure I want to hear your opinion, and please do not get me wrong: I
certainly didn't want to offend anybody.
Please let me try to explain ... and please allow for clumsy phrasing, it
would be easier in German :-)
I personally am very much in favour of sharing information and enjoy doing
so very much. Because I am a customer myself and on the German market have
been one of the first 'developers' employed by a customer, I have been able
to help other customers quite a lot (I think) by providing tips and tricks
in quite a lot of areas.
The reason I am still in doubt is, that we have not been very lucky with our
first two Axapta partners (to express it mildly). Therefore, we had to do
most of the work on our own, including the collecting of information,
learning how to use the system at all, etc. At least in Germany, we are not
the only company with this background. The lack of documentation and support
led us to question the ulterior motives of Axapta partners and Navision
resp. MBS.
Now, of course I am willing to help anybody who needs help. I also think
it's a great idea to collect the information in a better medium than a
mailing list provides. I also don't mind if MBS may have advantages of this
documentation.
But I wonder how MBS would present the information gathered by others. In
the worst case, I see myself bying an update - only to find that I paid for
bug fixes I provided myself.
If I am the only one having these concerns, please let's not get into that
any deeper. I am quite sure that I will contribute to the 'project' anyway,
as I would like to see Axapta become a success, too :-)
Bye, Annette
Mit freundlichen Gr��en / Best regards
Dipl. Phys. Annette Thei�en
System Software Entwicklung
______________________________________________
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-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Kim Truelsen (MICROSOFT BUSINESS SOLUTIONS)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. September 2004 09:45
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: [development-axapta] Documentation of classes and tables
Hi Annette
If you want to hear my opinion about this!
I have spent a lot of time reading and providing technical documentation to
this newsgroup. It is very interesting to know what is going on in the
Axapta community!!
To make Axapta world wide success, we need your help and support to reach
that goal. I think the idea of having newsgroups and documentation website
is a very
good idea even though we aren't the one that provides them. I would be very
disappointed if partners and customers work against the idea of sharing
knowledge with everybody.
Have a nice day.
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Kim Truelsen
Escalation Engineer
Microsoft Business Solutions Axapta
EMEA Global Technical Support Center
Direct / mobile: +45 4489 0100 / +45 29499958
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@microsoft.com>
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MBS Partnersource at:
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From: Theissen, Annette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15. september 2004 08:51
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: AW: [development-axapta] Documentation of classes and tables
I would like to add another thought:
By creating and maintaining a documentation web site, we would be doing
MBS's work; probably also providing them with a bug list and a way to fix
those bugs. Are we willing to give that information to them? I (as a
customer, not a partner of MBS) am not yet sure about that ...
What do you think? I am not even sure whether there are other Axapta
customers in this list ...
Bye, Annette
-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Theissen, Annette
Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. September 2004 15:23
An: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Betreff: AW: [development-axapta] Documentation of classes and tables
I think, that's a very good idea, too. Mostly because questions keep
repeating here and it just would be nice to compile the information that has
been collected here as well as in 'private' folders and documents into a
more readable and consistent form.
But what about the following:
* Are we allowed to do that (copyright - wise), maybe not because MBS
owns the source code!?
* How would the documentation change with a new release, an update
etc.?
Bye, Annette
PS: I think Matt refers to the so called Wiki Webs.
Mit freundlichen Gr��en / Best regards
Dipl. Phys. Annette Thei�en
System Software Entwicklung
______________________________________________
Viscom AG - Carl-Buderus-Str. 9-15 - D-30455 Hannover
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-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Matt Benic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. September 2004 14:15
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: [development-axapta] Documentation of classes and tables
Perhaps this could be accomplished by means of one of those
community-editable websites. I forget what they are called..
Regards,
Matt Benic
Axapta Developer
UTi Sun Couriers Division
"The universal aptitude for ineptitude
makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle."
- Col. John P. Stapp
-----Original Message-----
From: mca_prog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 September 2004 02:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [development-axapta] Documentation of classes and tables
Hi,
90% of the classes and tables in Axapta aren't documented. Here i
mean that there is no "developers documentation". That doesn't make
the axapta-life easier!!
So I was wondering if there are peaople who want to setup a project
of some kind to get the documentation as complete as possible. Maybe
some of you have already some classes/tables documented. Others
could split up the work so that we have a better documented Axapta
environment in the end. It's maybe impossible to document
everything, but even 50% documentation is much much better then the
current situation.
Does somebody have ideas or suggestions about this? Are there enough
people willing to cooperate?
Please let me know what you all think about this.
Regards,
Mca
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