Exactly right. I can't even name all the places in core where the core
almost gives me what I want, but not quite because of a missing CCK field or
column in a view.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Earl Miles
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [development] How could everyone win and get Views in Drupal 8?

Cameron Eagans wrote:
> I think the argument of 'let's put views in core because it'll make 
> setting up sites easier' is kind of a bad one in this case. Views is 
> neither easy nor essential for -every- site out there.

The argument for having Views in core is that Views would then power a 
whole ton of core:

tracker.module: Just a view.
blog.module: Just a view.
/node front page: Just a view.
/rss.xml: Just a view.
node content admin: Could be a view, with VBO.
user admin: Could be a view, with VBO.
recent comments block: Yep, a view.
recent blog posts block: Yep, a view.
active forum posts? Sho 'nuff.

Having a bunch of this stuff be Views natively, instead of hardcoded 
queries and whatnot, would be a big step closer to separating the API 
from the Application, and the Application would become *much* more 
replaceable. And tweakable. Because once it's a view, then on your site 
you can tweak it as much as you can tweak any view. And that's rather a lot.

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