Andrew Berry wrote:
On 2009-12-11, at 9:33 AM, Damien Tournoud wrote:

a big part of the view and the controller is
actually handled by the browser.

This is true for how %99.9 percent of the Drupal installations out there, but a 
"view" doesn't have to be graphical. A View could be RSS, XML, Postscript, etc. 
IMO the $page array in D7 brings Drupal much closer to an MVC-like design, as you now 
have an abstracted representation of data before it's processed by the View (whatever 
your theme_* and .tpl.php files do).

--Andrew

The defining attribute of MVC is, IMO, that the View component has direct access to the Model component using an observer relationship, without going through a separate Controller.

hook_page_alter() is in no way a direct observer relationship between the View component and the Model component. *_alter hooks are a pipes-and-filter approach, or, arguably, visitor pattern.

Drupal is very much not an MVC design. It's not true PAC either, but I have and do argue that it is closer to PAC than MVC.

Someone needs to correct the Wikipedia page, which is simply wrong in this regard.

--Larry Garfield

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