Hi Adolf,
for sure I have ddr3 4gb sodimm modules I will look for them on monday next 
week. Because I am on vacation until then.

-
Daniel 


> Am 05.06.2025 um 19:54 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tre...@ipfire.org>:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>> On 5 Jun 2025, at 12:55, Adolf Belka <adolf.be...@ipfire.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>>> On 05/06/2025 12:42, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>> Hello Adolf,
>>> If the Prime appliance is not suitable for testing any more, I am sure we 
>>> can find you something else.
>> 
>> It can still be used for testing and even for some bug development. It is 
>> just that with the IPS enabled, that uses 1.4GB on its own so the memory 
>> usage is around 88% to 94%.
> 
> I have noticed that Suricata has become very memory hungry recently, too. I 
> think it is since we upgraded to version 7, but I did not verify this.
> 
>> So doing something like a change to the IPS rulesets that are enabled ends 
>> up going into something like 20% swap usage and trying to access the Prime 
>> via SSH has ended up at 35% swap usage just now when I tested it.
>> The impact of the swap usage is just that everything ends up going very slow.
> 
> This appliance is already very slow and the disk-on-module is not super fast 
> either. This is not fun to use.
> 
>> Disabling the IPS resolves the swap usage because the memory level is then 
>> down at 50% or less.
>> 
>>> What would you need?
>> 
>> I don't really know. I find it good to be able to do testing on both vm and 
>> physical hardware and the definite benefit of the Prime is that it has a 
>> wifi connection so I can test out the hostapd element of IPFire, which I 
>> can't on the vm systems.
>> 
>> I have thought on and off about replacing my "production" old mini appliance 
>> with one of the new mini appliances and then I could use the old mini 
>> appliance for testing etc although it doesn't have a wifi connection.
> 
> We can fix that. I am sure I have a spare WiFi module somewhere around. Are 
> you using WiFi in your production appliance?
> 
>> Until I get to a point to getting the new mini appliance the Prime 
>> definitely is of benefit to my testing.
>> 
>> Maybe I use the vm systems for IPS e\valuations and disable it on the Prime. 
>> That would probably help with the memory and performance.
>> That's a good idea. I will give that a test out and see how things go.
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
>> Regards,
>> Adolf.
>> 
>>> -Michael
>>>> On 5 Jun 2025, at 10:42, Adolf Belka <adolf.be...@ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/06/2025 20:25, Tim Zakharov wrote:
>>>>> Adolf,
>>>>> If you have access to a 4GB DDR3 SODIMM (even if you temporarily grab one 
>>>>> from an old laptop or borrow from a colleague), you could try installing 
>>>>> it.  I wouldn't be surprised if the system booted up and either supported 
>>>>> the full 4GB or limited it to 2.44GB, but worked nonetheless.  It won't 
>>>>> hurt anything to try.  Worst case, the system does not power up until you 
>>>>> replace the original SODIMM.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the suggestions Tim. Unfortunately didn't help. My oldest 
>>>> laptop turns out to have DDR2 and the SODIMM's are 2GB anyway.
>>>> My newest laptop has DDR4, so not usable.
>>>> My netbook does have DDR3 but with only a 2GB SODIMM.
>>>> 
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> On 6/4/2025 1:18 PM, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Adolf,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm, this might be difficult. I remember that this processor was a 
>>>>>> little bit limited in how much RAM it supports.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, the Intel Ark says max. 2.44 GiB 
>>>>>> (https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/58916/intel-atom-processor-n2600-1m-cache-1-6-ghz/specifications.html).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am not sure how to put this in, but generally that seems to be not 
>>>>>> much higher than two.
>>>> 
>>>> I think you are right.
>>>> 
>>>> I am only using it as a Testing evaluation system and as a system to do 
>>>> bug development work on.
>>>> 
>>>> So I think I will just have to accept that the memory might be used up a 
>>>> lot and periodically it might go into swap use. I can live with that.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Adolf.
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3 Jun 2025, at 20:15, Adolf Belka <adolf.be...@ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Arne and everyone,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In the monthly conf call I forgot to ask this question.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have an old IPFire Prime system which has a 2GB sodimm memory card 
>>>>>>> installed. The memory is very close to fully utilised so that 
>>>>>>> periodically the swap space gets used for memory.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to buy some larger memory for it but I need to know if I 
>>>>>>> can use 8GB cards with it or if it is limited to 4GB as the largest 
>>>>>>> memory size that is usable (or worst case, that I have to stay with the 
>>>>>>> 2GB card if that is the biggest supported).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyone know what the max ram memory that can be supported by the Prime 
>>>>>>> systems is?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Adolf.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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