Exactly. We are very pleased if there are people who start to contribute to
Qbs. So far it has been very little by others than employees of The Qt Company.
We will continue maintaining Qbs so that it stays supported until end of 2019
and also release a new version in April 2019 as promised. Most likely Qbs
remains usable a long time after support ends - even without anyone from the
community working on it.
This is a good opportunity for those interested in further developing Qbs to
step up and start taking it forward. We can help with the reviews and provide
the infrastructure. We can help even with new releases, if there is enough
interest to develop it further.
I do not think anyone questions the technical merits of Qbs over qmake or
CMake. Qbs is better than these in many ways. For that reason we have kept on
investing into it. But we also need to be realistic and think about what paying
customers prefer. While we have some customers using Qbs, the use of CMake is
much, much bigger. Both by the number of customers using it and by the size of
the customers' usage.
We probably should have opened the dialogue about the future of Qbs during the
process of thinking about the options. This would have been good and fair
towards the community. But it would not change the facts - it is an impossibly
huge task to replace CMake with Qbs even within the Qt users, let alone outside
of Qt.
Yours,
Tuukka
On 02/11/2018, 14.15, "Development on behalf of Martin Smith"
<development-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt...@qt-project.org on behalf of
martin.sm...@qt.io> wrote:
>You've just dropped Qbs, what's next?
>I don't trust you anymore, nor the company-ies you represent - Nothing
personal.
>I think that it is time for the qt-project.org domain to be handed
>back to the Qt Project community.
But "dropped Qbs" means The Qt Company won't be developing Qbs anymore,
which means, effectively, Qbs is being handed to the Qt Project community.
martin
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on behalf of Christian Gagneraud <chg...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 1:08:34 PM
To: Lars Knoll
Cc: development@qt-project.org; v.ro...@yahoo.it
Subject: Re: [Development] Who is in charge of qt-project.org?
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 23:55, Lars Knoll <lars.kn...@qt.io> wrote:
>
>
> On 2 Nov 2018, at 11:45, Christian Gagneraud <chg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 22:25, Kain Vampire via Development
> <development@qt-project.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I have to apologise for my behaviour. While I still think Christian
Gagneraud's attack on the Qt company abilities was unfair and uncalled for,
it's not a justification for my actions.
> Creating an hostile environment is bad for the community and I should not
have done it.
> It won't happen again,
> Regards,
> Luca
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to apologise as well, my sarcasm and my provocation went
> uncontrolled.
> My fault, this was definitely not the most clever way to get things
sorted.
> I'm looking forward HTTPS://lists.qt-project.org to be back online and
> would like to thanks everyone working on the matter.
>
>
> Thanks Chris and Luca.
>
> Getting lists.qt-project.org fixed is being worked on. I hope it’s won’t
be too long.
>
> But there’s something to take away for TQtC as the party taking care of
the infrastructure here. TQtC needs to establish some more pro-active
monitoring of the infrastructure so that these things will get ideally get
fixed before they become a problem next time. I’ll see what I can do to help
getting that in place.
<big-warning message="not cool at all" apologies="you have been
warned, do not keep reading if you do not fell comfortable">
Hi Lars,
You've just dropped Qbs, what's next?
I don't trust you anymore, nor the company-ies you represent - Nothing
personal.
I think that it is time for the qt-project.org domain to be handed
back to the Qt Project community.
I was reading a french article this morning
(https://linuxfr.org/news/fedora-29), i give you an inaccurate, but
syntactic and compact translation of the article introduction:
Fedora is a GNU/Linux distribution developed by the Fedora Project and
sponsored by Red Hat that provide them with developers, finance and
logistics.
Fedora can be seen as an open source technological show case of Red
Hat proprietary technology. (NDLR: Free and inaccurate translation, i
mean it)
=> sold for 34 billions dollars
How do you fell about that? Do you see similarities?
Is the triple-licensed Qt stack an open source technological show case
of what the Qt Company has to offer?
</big-warning>
More seriously, yes, Fedora/RedHat and
Qt/Project/Company/Digia/Nokia/Microsoft/TrollTech are different beast
(apple and oranges, yadi, yada, ...).
But I see similarities. (and i do not care about the 34 billions)
Chris
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