So more effort than it is worth?

Just get them to use modems or get their own adsl at home?

Either that or I could suggest they string their own cat 5 across the
street?  Or blow up a few buildings in between?

Just =once=  in my life - I would like a solution to be simple.  To have a
cool idea and just be able to do it without some little problem or
artificial red tape getting in the way!   :-\

:(


:)


Richard.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan York" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Richard Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "dev info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Local Side Wireless and E-smith


> Richard,
>
> > Has anyone any experience in this?
>
> Both Gordon Rowell and I have (separately- since I'm in Canada and he's in
> Australia - wireless range is good but not THAT good!) experimented
> with using 802.11b wireless cards with an e-smith server. Neither of
> us have had much time lately to work on it, but we have had successful
> experiments.  Both of us have been using Lucent Orinoco (formerly WaveLan)
> cards.
>
> Michael Maxwell also wrote up a HOWTO on using Raylink and Webgear cards:
>
>   http://home.iprimus.com.au/michaelmaxwell/esmith.html
>
> > How do you add wireless to the safe local side of the e-smith network.
>
> Two options...
>
> 1. Buy one of the many wireless hubs now available and simply plug it
> into your internal network. (Having all the configuration take place on
> the wireless hub.)
>
> 2. Configure your e-smith server to be the wireless access point.
>
> To do #2, you more or less need to do this:
>
>   - install a PCMCIA adapter and one of the wireless cards
>   - install the pcmcia_cs RPM for your kernel
>   - install the wireless tools RPM (which gives you the 'iwconfig'
command)
>   - start  'pcmcia' services
>   - run iwconfig to configure your (e-smith-server) card
>   - configure your clients to interact with your server
>
> Well, you'll also need to figure out how to give different addresses to
> your client systems - potentially configuring DHCP to support the second
> subnet.  And I'm probably missing a few steps... but that's the idea.
>
> > If wireless hardware only provides 40 bit encryption - how do you add
> > wireless to the "live" side of e-smith so you can VPN in safe 128
> > encryption?
>
> Lucent's Orinoco cards come in 40-bit (Silver) or 128-bit (Gold). Buy
> Gold cards. Now you have 128-bit encryption. (Using an algorithm, of
> course, that has been broken.)
>
> The truly paranoid (in the good security sense of the word) then run ssh
> or some other encryption algorithm on top of their wireless connection.
>
> > What cards work well?
>
> Like I said, Gordon and I have been using the Lucent cards and they have
> worked well.  Michael's HOWTO covers the Raylink and Webgear cards.
>
> The Linux Journal had a couple of articles on this... as did O'Reilly
> (http://www.oreilly.com/ ). I would search on "802.11"
>
> > Is a base station needed?
>
> Not if you use your e-smith server as the base station.
>
> > How strong is the signal/how far?
>
> I've gotten about a 100 feet away or so without an antenna.  At Linuxcare
when
> we had antennas, we were getting maybe 200 or 300 feet.
>
> > Do brick walls pose a threat -
>
> Yup.  They reduce signal strength.  Concrete, too.
>
> > can you
> > get "repeater stations" or mount aerials on roof tops to get the signal
over
> > other buildings?
>
> Hmmm... Not sure how far the aerial can be from the base.
>
> > I have 2 clients where their offices are at the MAX 100 meters from
their
> > houses.  It was ~100 meters walking - not in a straight line.
>
> Hmmm... it *might* work... but I'd be skeptical.
>
> > They will be using ADSL and e-smith at the office and a wired or unwired
> > LAN.  And we are exploring the possibility of setting up wireless to
extend
> > the offices into their homes.  However there are a couple of buildings
in
> > the "line of sight" way - and the walls of the office and house
> > respectively.  It is still >= 100 metres though.
>
> Hmmmm ... I would be highly doubtful that it would work.  But you never
> know...
>
> Dan
>
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