Garret,
No, I wasn't joking,
I see no harm in an open discussion about the merits for or against of a
fork and/or the future direction of development of e-smith. I believe
they are development issues.

As it happens, on the face of it, without fully exploring the issues, I
don't think a fork is a good idea either. (The term "divide and concur"
comes to mind, not to mention the wasted energy of duplication)

A separate issue but related AFAIC: I'm not so thrilled with the
direction Mitel/e-smith took recently re ipsec, and I might not be the
only one. I feel that as a small business (less than 5 ppl) I'm left out
of the current advances and perhaps not in the Mitel picture of the
future. The asking price is simply way to high. (btw my e-smith server
is paid up!, I'm not a free loader)
A discussion in the open is almost certainly going to involve the "whys"
and I won't be surprised if some of it relates to the cost of
participation in the new "ServiceLink" to obtain ipsec. Should I be
correct in my assumption then Mitel may consider an alternative approach
to the current offerings that would allow business such as mine to use
the service or part there of and contribute financially.
Therefore I put it to you that it may be in the best interests of all of
us, end users, developers, Mitel and partners that a discussion such as
this "in the open" could be beneficial to all concerned.

I am interested in others opinions but I will not respond to flames !

Jon

> 
> 4. > Why "Off-List"? It is a development issue isn't it?<
>  Are you joking? It is not a development issue, it is a business
issue. If
> it were a development issue it would be on the aXon boards or list,
not
> e-smith. This is a private matter and should be handled in private.
The
> result should be public.
> 


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