> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Powell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 12:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] root / shell access


> Probably (make that definitely) a better approach is leave 
> the config alone,

The stated approach does not modify the config in any non-standard way. It
simply sets a property that was removed from the web manager. From a system
integrity perspective, nothing untoward is done.


> telnet in as admin and "su -" to root.

Have you ever telneted into the server as admin? You get the admin console,
not the command line. It would be pretty tough to su to anything from there.


> The best approach, of course, is to use SSH, not telnet.

Reminds me of the old "GOTO is evil" argument. Pretty tough to program most
popular processors without GOTO -- usually referred to as a JUMP in most
assembly mnemonics :-) The GOTO in and of itself is not bad -- it is the
misuse of GOTO, which is an easy thing to do, that is bad. Similarly, not
all telnet access is bad. Prone to be bad, yes, but inherently and
inescapably bad, no.


> Neither of those involve major compromises to security or any 
> change to the config.

Except that one won't work, and the other has issues of its own. Not the
least of which is that most SSH clients are pretty lame when compared to
their more mature telnet cousins.

Machines don't think, people do. It should be the option and responsibility
of the local admin to determine if the security risks of telnet -- or any
other arguably risky service or protocol or practice -- are worth the
rewards.

IMHO

Scott

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