From: "Peter Werner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> hi
>
> extra acl patches and stuff are nice things but there are some big
problems
> with actually integrating them into a system. there are lots of factors,
it
> takes a long time to install and configure things properly, and being
human
> people make mistakes (perhaps completely invalidating the setup), if you
> have the time take a look at how many configuration files selinux has
> (lots). secondly, a flawed implementation can introduce new security
> problems, most of the core linux stuff has been pretty well audited, why
add
> heaps more complexity? most importantly (imho) is all existing software
has
> been designed with the
> current unix security model assumed. if you change that assumption you
have
> to at the very least go through and check it will play nicely with the new
> model. optimally you would go through and change everything to take
> advantage
> of the new model. otherwise you introduce new security problems, ala the
> sendmail capability problem a while back.

Well, the reason for implementing a system like RSBAC is not system-security
(on the level of the operating system)  alone.
The other important aspect that RSBAC could give you is privacy.

In the normal linux-security model (unix) the administrator/root can access
all files (user/OS-related) in the system. You don't always want that.

IMHO, it fits perfectly in the current model of sme (admin/users/groups)
It could be a selling point: as an reseller (or administrator) : you can
assure your
client that his/her data is kept private from your (prying) eyes :)

Again, the question was: has anybody tried to implement it.
I just would love to hear some experiences. Doesn't necessarily have to be
on essg/sme.

> this stuff seems a bit overkill'ish for sme in my opinion, one thing that

Well, that depends on where you'd want to use sme for.

Regard,
 Bart Koppers
 OpenCare



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