On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Greg J. Zartman wrote:
> That was the point of my original post on this topic. Correct me if I'm > wrong here Charlie OK :-) > pre-release SME on this list. As an example, I recall having several > working conversations with both Charlie and Gordon as Mitel was working > conversations on this list to refine and debug e-smith-samba. Your recollections are inaccurate. The samba development discussion was done independently of any release. It was then incorporated into a subsequent beta release. > I certainly understand Charlie wanting all bug reports sent to > [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I can't see the harm of sharing the information > with this group. I think the issue is that they are worried that bug > discussion in both places will cloud things. We have three main issues. 1. time. Do you want me to spend my time participating in debates on this list, or do you want me to fix bugs and implement features. More importantly, what do the people who pay me want. 2. duplicate tickets. Discussion cc'd between bugs and devinfo raises a new ticket for each followup. See point 1 - each new ticket needs to be closed. 3. Confusion of issues. As Gordon has pointed out, reporting of an IMP issue on this list provoked followup on totally unrelated IMP issues. Previous discussions of beta release bugs on this list has provoked much discussion about desired features. Such discussion is futile - it is almost certainly too late to affect which features are included in a release. And as I have said multiple times in the past, if you want to see features in the server software that Mitel releases - show us the money, or show us the code. Mitel has marketing people who decide what features are required to make sales. You may have a differing opinion, but your opinion is just that, your opinion. Please don't waste my time, and the time of everyone else on this list, trying to debate the issue. I am not here to defend, criticise or debate Mitel's business plans. I'm here to help you develop stuff of your own. Please keep all postings on topic. [Over and Out] Charlie -- Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Group http://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporation http://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 592 5660 or 592 2122 Fax: +1 (613) 592 1175 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org