On Nov 13, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Matthew Garrett <mj...@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:15:36PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> What is the current status of KMS for radeon and noveau? Is radeon >> KMS >> still marked as experimental? > > It's marked as experimental, but only because the ABI isn't fixed yet. > It should work. nouveau KMS works fine, including suspend/resume > support > on most machines. > >> What do we do about users of radeon w/o KMS, nv or intel w/o i915? > > nv is broadly irrelevant (quirks aren't going to help you there), > running intel without i915 isn't going to work with the next driver > release (which will be before any distribution ships without hal) and > radeon without kms is effectively deprecated. You are writing off a lot of legacy hardware that is probably still in use, as well as everything that is not intel, radeon, or nvidia. The quirks database should stay in some form. >> Imo at this point it is a bit premature to rely on KMS only. Of >> course >> we can just keep hal around for that purpose a little longer and safe >> us the effort of a transition. My guess is, that Martin want's to get >> rid of hal completely for a default GNOME desktop install in Lucid? > > Given that the X transition away from hal hasn't happened yet, there's > no realistic chance of anyone shipping a halless distribution in the > next release cycle. And by then KMS should be solid for everything. Even sis, tseng, matrox, and all the smaller players? > -- > Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org > _______________________________________________ > Pm-utils mailing list > pm-ut...@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/pm-utils _______________________________________________ devkit-devel mailing list devkit-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/devkit-devel