On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:11:00PM +0200, Mika Hirvonen wrote:
> Scott Miller wrote:
> >On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:25:03PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>The caches as they are now are designed to store only the 20 most recent
> >>submissions, the number could be decreased to 5 for example.  Also, they 
> >>can run
> >>only in the few days after announcing a new release in order to help new 
> >>nodes.
> >>After things stabilise, they can be shut down, assuming that we disable 
> >>the
> >>cache annoucnement code in order to retain control over who runs them.  
> >>If a new
> >>node can't connect to any of its bundled caches, it will just download the
> >>references from hawk as before.
> 
> >You do realize that the biggest problem with a centralized or 
> >semi-centralized directory is that each Freenet node now has to contact 
> >it, which gives you a centralized place to watch for the creation of new 
> >Freenet nodes.
> 
> Directories like these were used back in the 0.3 days, and I thought 
> that announcements and distribution servlets were supposed to make these 
> obsolete?
> 
> Currently, one can get the distribution zip from a friendly node with 
> some known good references, install the node and have it announce itself 
>  to the nodes listed in the seednodes.ref (from the distribution zip). 
> Announcements draw traffic to the node, and the node learns more refs as 
> more and more nodes connect to it, integrating it to the network. It has 
> no single point of failure and scales well.

The problem is that it scales agonizingly slowly, because nobody knows
anybody with a freenet node. It only works if either users don't mind
trusting total strangers (other than us), in which case a lot of them
will be rooted via bad JARs etc, or if they know somebody on freenet who
won't root them with it. Until we have critical mass, 99% of all
introductions will be through the central web site. It's as repulsive to
me as it is to you, but it's life.
> 
> -- 
>   Mika Hirvonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   http://nightwatch.mine.nu/

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