{
it seems to me that freenet will only become really
useful for p2p 
filesharing with and index and way to seach freenet. 
I think this has 
sort-of been tried before, but what if built into the
freenet node was a way 
to index every key inserted, in an index key.  if a
search mechanism was 
also built into the node, then freenet would suddenly
become useful to the 
"average joe" end user, which surely must be one of
your goals - freedom of 
speech is useless if noone can hear you.
} From Ian Cullinan

Yeah, well you might want to check this out if you
haven't already:
http://www.freenet.org.nz/search/
I not sure who made it, but it seems to be running a
node sniffing out content and maintaining indexs for
text searches.  The obvious problem is that it you
give up your anonymity when you use it.  I think what
he is suggesting is to make a tool which does this
that most users could run locally.

The problem I see is that it cann't be a completely
3rd party tool because of the way the keys are layed
out.  You're not supposed to be able to read what's in
your data store, because it's encrypted so you have no
liablity.  Fred does know what a key is when a request
comes in for a key, but Fred tells no one and drops
this information.  Someone would have to build little
sniffer hooks into Fred to make this possible.

I do agree that this kind of feature would be cool. 
Right now freenet seems to be where the web was before
yahoo.  You had to surf a graph to try to find what
you need.

Toad, I agree there will be some kind of advesary
tring to flood any search system full of junk.  Still
I think if a node sits there and passivly listens to
which keys are requested it can estimate how popular
items are, and that the junk wouldn't be as popular as
the good stuff.  One could also use the old google
algorithm where you build a graph to determine how
popular a page is by seeing how many "good" pages link
to it.

The big question is should/can this be done by every
node or some trusted authorities (which the user can
select) building an indecies.  People at google make
good money doing this and do it well, but at the same
time the web offers up (too?) much power to them.  

I sure you could say the same for that main page that
tries to link in all freesites.  I see no difference
trust wise in relieing on some main page(s) or some
index(s) which are maintain by a trusted few.  When
that list of freesites grows into the tens of
thousands, we'll have to replace it with something
better.

Chris




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