On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:23:10AM -0400, Dan Merillat wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Sep 2003, Gordan wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 September 2003 18:21, Dan Merillat wrote:
> > 
> > I would actually hope that provided the other private nodes are actually used 
> > directly, they would start to accumulate data and fit themselves into their 
> > own specialised areas. Once they all had a reasonably amount of data in them, 
> > they would, hopefully, start cooperating and passing data without having to 
> > go outside to fetch it.
> 
> Somewhat, yes.  Not optimally.
> 
> > 
> > > About the only thing you really should do is patch the supernode to
> > > ALWAYS reset datasource so your internal addy's don't pollute the global
> > > namespace.
> > 
> > I don't think that would happen anyway. From what I understand from Matthew's 
> > previous post, private IP addresses get automatically ignored by default 
> > anyway, unless an option in the config file is set.
> 
> Yes, but if the gateway ALWAYS resets datasource, to the outside world
> it looks like a 'supernode' with all the data of all the internal nodes.
> Same with the inverse.
> 
> Without that, you get 10.x noderefs polluting the table then get
> dropped, so any data stored on internal nodes goes to /dev/null.
> 
> > 
> > Stopping outward connections is not a problem, any half-decent firewall 
> > solution can do that.
> 
> Only if you turn off the internet.  Random port->Random port.  You can't
> block freenet without blocking everything but www.  It depends on what
> kind of system you're running.  Here, we have NAT to keep windows boxes
> from being directly on the internet, but there's no restrictions on what
> they can connect out to.

But it will not be an effective Freenet node if it can't receive
incominf connections.
> 
> > > Matthew: How can they keep their internal nodes from being "polluted"
> > > with external noderefs?
> > 
> > Is that really necessary? Surely, the polution will not have any real effect 
> > because the nodes will quickly learn that they cannot route to those nodes. 
> > More to the point, the nodes other than the border node don't have to have a 
> > default route out of the network, thus IP will RNF before things get any 
> > further.
> 
> Again, it's a waste because without a valid reference, data gets lost.
> 
> > > ResetDS at the gateway should stop them from
> > > learning that way, but if one node picks up a reference to the outside
> > > world and contacts it you're going to start dragging references in.
> > 
> > I don't know how Freenet handles such situations, but I would guess that 
> > external node references would quickly end up being dropped from the routing 
> > table.
> 
> Indeed.
> 



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