On 2003-09-13 at 20:20, Lorrin Nelson wrote:

> Right, except when they're not - like problems with the motherboard or 
> with the opsys or a native library.

These crashes happen to several users and I think with different
operating systems. The reports going to Sun will show that anyway.

>  I'm not saying it's not a JVM bug, 
> I'm just saying it's reasonable for them to ask for a cleaner problem 
> report. Look at what was submitted -- run my program for a while and it 
> crashes. It's not supposed to do that. Fix it.

If that is not enough for them to debug it, then they should fix their
bug report system. Or provide people who has the bug with debug builds
of the JVM, instrumented to provide better backtraces.

I am honestly shocked that Sun has not invested engineer time in this
bug. It shows that they either do not care about non-commercial use of
their platform (in which case it is obviously an unsuitable platform for
Freenet) or that they get so many JVM crashes that they cannot devote
time to each. The latter frightens me even more than the former.


/Benny



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