On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 04:23:52PM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:09:40AM +0100, Toad spake thusly:
> > Wrong. Total bullshit. A 12 year old kiddie can DoS an address IF HE HAS
> > OR CAN ACQUIRE MORE BANDWIDTH THAN THE TARGET. Otherwise the internet
> > would have been completely destroyed aeons ago.
> 
> I think you are coming on just a bit too strong here. And who couldn't
> take over a few dozen windows boxes and acquire more aggregate bandwidth
> than the target if they really wanted to? It is largely due to the fact
> that most people aren't interested in doing these things that the Internet
> wasn't destroyed aeons ago.
> 
> > > An attacker with the ability to monitor a node's communications will
> > > presumably have the ability to just cut off that node's internet
> > > connection too - they wouldn't even need to bother with the attack you
> > > describe.
> > 
> > Perhaps, perhaps not.
> 
> If you can sniff the line you can see the tcp sequence numbers and easily
> kill any connection. For non-tcp if you know the protocol you can inject
> your own commands and cause disconnect or confuse things as to render them
> useless.

Only if the protocol is stupid.
> 
> -- 
> Tracy Reed
> http://copilotconsulting.com

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