On Dec 2, 2003, at 10:27 PM, Toad wrote:
If you respond saying 'I would run one', please include the following
basic stats:
Bandwidth (approx)
Disk space (approx)
Available memory (more logging => more memory usage, sadly... under some
situations we would need more logging. Since this means the possibility
of the node dying with OOM if we get it wrong, we'd probably want a
supervisor script or something...).
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 03:02:21AM +0000, Toad wrote:One radical proposal that I think might be quite useful:
We reinstate something in the spirit of the watchme network. Since everything is tracked, there is no anonymity, so it would only be used for testing i.e. exchange of legal files in an attempt to simulate normal network conditions. The original watchme code won't provide sufficient data to debug NGR, and since there is no anonymity, we can perhaps go for something more radical:
Remote access to everything on the web interface, AND LOGS. Remote
setting of logLevel, logLevelDetail and perhaps other options. Automatic
upgrading, perhaps with remote triggering, or perhaps on a timer.
Basically we want a couple of hundred 'drone' nodes that we can
experiment on, to try to speed up the debugging cycle, and to enable us
to track what is happening between nodes at the network level as well as
on our local node. Prerequisites would be a little higher than a normal
node, especially on disk space (need space for logs... perhaps a lot of
space, but hopefully we can control it by being careful with
logLevelDetail).
What do people think of this suggestion? Would you be willing to run a 'drone' node (or two)?
This would be a separate network, completely independant of the main,
fully protected network, used for development of routing algorithms etc.
Just like with watchme, nodes on the drone network would not be able to
talk to regular nodes. We could also provide a warning on the web
interface.
It should help to solve various major problems with both routing and several other subsystems (connection dying for example).
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 09:04:28PM -0500, Zlatin Balevsky wrote:Hello users,
here is a small poll to let us know how willing you are to help us get
NGR working. Please get in touch with us somehow (directly to amphibian
@ dyndns.org, irc, this list, the support list, frost, etc.) to let us
know which of the following best describes your willingness to help ngr:
a) I would run a node without anonimity and let the devs get all info they want, and would stick around to assist them
b) I would run a node without anonimity and let the devs get all info they want as long as I'm not bothered
c) I would not run a node without anonimity but would let the devs get
all other info they need
d) I would not run a node without anonimity and would only give information as I please
e) I would only file bug reports
f) screw you, you should be glad I even run a node!
Thank you in advance for your participation!
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