On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 07:56:59AM -0800, pineapple wrote:
> Uh, yes the idea is that NGR does work, but not while
> the network is overloaded.  To reduce load, your
> options are limited to: adding more resources,
> improving routing and reducing queries.  My proposal
> addresses reducing queries; which is what exponential
> backing off is supposed to do but does not seem to be
> working.  I think the current backoff method hurts
> routing because it totaly closes down more optimal
> paths (because optimal paths get more traffic) while
> my proposal would throttle queries based on HTL (some
> could still get through and so the node is not totaly
> blacked out and routing can still gather data from
> this route).  Lower HTL queries do take less time to
> complete, IF they started out lower.  The assumption
> with MinHTL is that the longer a key is on the network
> the less likely you are to find it, all other things
> being equal.  Also, MinHTL has the effect of reducing
> the HTL of all queries without being biased based on
> the original HTL.  Doing something like lowering
> MaxHTL instead would prematurely kill new queries
> while giving priority to older queries that are less
> likely to be found (this would probably hose the
> network even more, if that's possible).  I'd be very
> surprised you could provide some evidence that the
> failure table isn't working.  It's hard to imagine how
> it could NOT be helping.  I'm sure the developers
> disagree with you about this, why else would Toad
> advocate expanding the failure table?

Probably he meant it wasn't blocking many requests?
> 
> --- Edgar Friendly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > This is an interesting idea...
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > The problem with MinHTL is that if everyone is
> > overloaded (as the case
> > seems to be), the request will only be able to
> > travel (MaxHTL-MinHTL)
> > hops into the network (once its HTL hits the average
> > loaded MinHTL of
> > the network, it won't be able to go any farther.) 
> > If anything, one
> > wants to prefer lower HTL requests because those are
> > going to take
> > less time to complete (one way or the other). 
> > 
> > As far as higher HTL requests being good for feeding
> > the failure
> > table, there's not much evidence of the failure
> > table being that
> > effective, for some reason.
> > 
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