On Friday 31 July 2009 20:38:24 Evan Daniel wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Matthew
> Toseland<[email protected]> wrote:
> > http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/07/another_new_aes.html
> >
> > Practical related-key/related-subkey attacks on AES with a 256-bit key with 
> > 9, 10 and 11 rounds. The official standard uses 14 rounds, so there is 
> > precious little safety margin - attacks always get better.
> >
> > We use AES/256 (technically we use Rijndael with 256 bit key and 256 bit 
> > block size mostly, which isn't strictly AES, although we use 128 bit block 
> > size, which is, for store encryption).
> >
> > Such attacks rely on related-key weaknesses in the protocol (as in WEP, 
> > where the IV was too small). In theory we shouldn't have any, although I am 
> > not entirely sure how to determine this. We shouldn't have known 
> > ciphertext, because we have an unforgeable authenticator on all packets, 
> > but I'm not sure exactly what the definition of a related-key weakness is.
> >
> > Nonetheless, it would seem prudent to increase the number of rounds as 
> > Schneier outlines (28 rounds for a 256-bit key). We have the infrastructure 
> > to do this without too much trouble, with key subtypes and negotiation 
> > types. Moving to AES/128 would be considerably more work.
> 
> I think it would be worth trying to get someone who is a qualified
> cryptographer to look in detail at how Freenet uses cryptography.
> Freenet does a *lot* of crypto, mixed together in ways that aren't
> necessarily common.  It's also a very interesting project from a
> cryptographic standpoint; it seems possible that someone could be
> talked into doing it on a volunteer basis.  Even if it wasn't
> volunteer, it might be worth seeing how much a proper review would
> cost.  Cryptographic review seems appropriate for a program which
> relies so strongly on the strength of its cryptography.

We used to have Scott, but his email address doesn't work... Maybe I should ask 
Ian to locate him?

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