I already have all but log rotation and async ready, and haven't yet found a single benchmark supporting the use of a branch as the performance holy grail. For example (outputting to /dev/null):

public static void main (String[] args) {
        for (int i = 0; i < 1000000; i++) {
Log.fatal (Log.class, Log.class, "akd\n\n", i, '\n', out, ' '); Log.trace (Log.class, Log.class, "akd\n\n", i, '\n', out, ' ');
        }
}

Every call means, minimally, varargs boxing, another call (since fatal() and trace() are simple convenience methods) and an isLoggable() check composed by a ConcurrentHashMap lookup against the class name and (possibly) a synchronized read on the global threshold. trace() is filtered but fatal() is not.

This snipped ran in an average 6.482 seconds. If the call to trace() is commented out (thus removing the filtering overhead), the average falls to 6.366 seconds. Disabling JIT, the figures became 1:37.952 and 1:35.880, respectively. Over a million calls, checking costs only a few milliseconds.

To be sure, this is a fairly simple example: it all runs on a single thread, the hash table is empty and the pressure on the GC is low. Still, differences are very small. Plus, there's no overhead due to a dedicated logging thread.

On 22-03-2012 18:59, Zlatin Balevsky wrote:

Double-digit millisecond pauses are not nothing. They may be acceptable right now but unless you can offer a drastically cleaner syntax Fred should stick with predicates as they are handled much better by the hotspot jit.

On Mar 22, 2012 5:36 PM, "Ximin Luo" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Lazy evaluation is trivial.

    Log.info("{1} did {2}",
     new Object(){ public String toString() { return ITEM_1; } },
     new Object(){ public String toString() { return ITEM_2; } }
    );

    Garbage collection with short-lived objects costs next to nothing.

    On 22/03/12 21:15, Zlatin Balevsky wrote:
    > Constructing the logging strings is half of the problem.  The
    amount of garbage
    > they will generate will result in significantly more time in
    garbage collection
    > pauses.
    >
    > Unless you figure out a way to mimic lazy evaluation you have to
    live with the
    > isLoggable predicates.  varargs are not an option either because
    they also
    > create garbage.
    >
    > On Mar 22, 2012 8:11 AM, "Marco Schulze"
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    > <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >     On 22-03-2012 08:50, Matthew Toseland wrote:
    >
    >         On Wednesday 21 Mar 2012 21:18:37 Marco Schulze wrote:
    >
    >             There are basically two big concerns regarding
    logging in fred:
    >
    >             - Readability and code clutter, which was my
    original questioning;
    >             - Raw throughput, as raised by toad.
    >
    >             Point 1 could mostly be solved by removing any
    traces of logMINOR and
    >             logDEBUG on all but the few places where generating
    messages to be
    >             logged brings noticeable slowdown. That'd be enough,
    but, personally,
    >             the mess that the logging backend is does warrant a
    replacement.
    >             According to toad, the current system needs
    log{MINOR,DEBUG} to
    >             function
    >             in a timely manner. Based on this, I think we all
    agree a
    >             replacement is
    >             desirable.
    >
    >             Logging has a few additional requirements:
    >
    >             - Log rotation (possibly live);
    >             - Reentrant;
    >             - Per-class filtering;
    >             - Specific information in log (class-name, for example).
    >
    >             Now, _any_ library which fits would make me happy,
    as long as they
    >             agree
    >             to two points:
    >
    >             - Either lightweight or with optional features.
    Else, it would only
    >             transfer bloat to freenet-ext.jar. For example:
    log2socket, config
    >             management and multiple logging instances;
    >             - Implementable in a few LoC. Specially, it
    shouldn't need specialized
    >             Formatter and Writer.
    >
    >             Plus, it should be fast.
    >
    >              From the quick research I made (yep, too many lists):
    >
    >             - SLF4J already fails on point one: it is simply a
    wrapper;
    >             - The Java logging API fails on point two:
    specialized classes would
    >             have to be written to deal with log rotation,
    per-class filtering and
    >             formatting, plus a wrapper for
    Logger.{info,warning,...}() methods.
    >             Exactly the same as a custom logger, with one more
    dependency and using
    >             more LoC;
    >
    >         No dependancies, it's part of the JDK, isn't it?
    >
    >     More classes need to be loaded at startup. It's just me
    thinking too much.
    >
    >
    >         However, if it's not a clearer/simpler API, it probably
    doesn't make
    >         much sense.
    >
    >             - Log4J seems to fail on point one - it only lacks a
    button that brings
    >             back the dead. It seems interesting, and I haven't
    dropped this yet.
    >
    >             In either case (custom or external), log* would be
    banished. Forever.
    >
    >         I don't follow. You object to using a separate logs folder?
    >
    >     log* == log{MINOR,DEBUG}, not the logs folder.
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