On Monday 22 Jul 2013 17:10:56 Robert Hailey wrote:
> 
> On 2013/07/22 (Jul), at 6:36 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> 
> > Okay so the idea is:
> > 1. Marketing: the user has something they can keep and use for other things.
> > 2. Uniqueness/cost guaranteed by the manufacturer: We can use an online 
> > service to establish that it's a genuine, unique yubikey, different to the 
> > yubikey's that have announced before. Then we generate a bootstrapping cert.
> 
> Exactly, and there would be other tangible [or even legal] tradeoffs 
> (non-profit freenet project would not be selling anything, but wouldn't be 
> getting the money for development, but wouldn't be burdened with making yet 
> another identity system).
> 
> > If they take said service offline, no big deal, because we only use it 
> > once, on creation.
> 
> IMO, the company/service going away ranks pretty low in the implementation 
> concerns.

This does happen in practice. See e.g. Wikileaks. Companies can and do pull the 
plug on clients that cause press/political issues for them.
> 
> > Maybe this is a possibility.
> 
> It's at least something unconventional to consider, and you never know... Ian 
> might be able to use his charm to get a special deal for freenet onboarding 
> [or something] as it might help cross-promote other yubi products to the 
> security conscious (e.g. they also make hardware security modules and 
> yubikeys with integrated smartcard crypto).
> 
> > We'd need a bitcoin option as well though.
> 
> When choosing a course, we might also need to consider how easy it would be 
> for someone to acquire bitcoins, versus buying a yubikey, versus just 
> clicking a paypal link.

I'm sure there would be people who wouldn't want to go the yubikey route.

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