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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Please Examine 0.3.7 (Mr.Bad)
2. Re: Problems for splitting (Oskar Sandberg)
3. Re: Please Examine 0.3.7 (Mark J. Roberts)
4. Re: Aardvark (Scott G. Miller)
5. Re: Please Examine 0.3.7 (Mr.Bad)
6. Re: Please Examine 0.3.7 (Scott G. Miller)
7. Re: Please Examine 0.3.7 (Sebastian Spaeth)
8. Re: Aardvark (Chris Anderson)
9. Re: Please Examine 0.3.7 (Mr.Bad)
10. Re: Please Examine 0.3.7 (Mr.Bad)
11. Re: Please Examine 0.3.7 (Mark J. Roberts)
12. 0.3.7 (Tavin Cole)
13. 0.3.7 (Tavin Cole)
14. Re: 0.3.7 (Mark J. Roberts)
15. Re: 0.3.7 (Mr.Bad)
16. Re: 0.3.7 (Mr.Bad)
17. Re: Please Examine 0.3.7 (Steven Hazel)
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Message: 1
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Please Examine 0.3.7
From: Mr.Bad <mr....@pigdog.org>
Organization: Pigdog Journal
Date: 03 Feb 2001 15:47:09 -0800
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
>>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad at pigdog.org> writes:
B> I'll take that back -- Sebastian found a couple of errors, I'm
B> fixing them, should be up in a couple of minutes.
Phew! OK, fixed. Again, try the downloads, the Windows install is up
there too.
~Mr. Bad
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:56:50 +0100
From: Oskar Sandberg <md98-...@nada.kth.se>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Problems for splitting
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 03:46:09PM -0800, Mr.Bad wrote:
> >>>>> "OS" == Oskar Sandberg <md98-osa at nada.kth.se> writes:
>
> OS> Computers are not voodoo. A file is just series of
> OS> numbers. Please explain how two series of numbers that contain
> OS> exactly the same elements are different...
>
> Hmmm... directory, permissions, owner, group, ACLs... I can think of
> tons of reasons. I don't think any of those things would make rpm
> segfault, but it's possible.
And a file downloaded from Freenet will have different attributes
depending on whether it was split while in Freenet?
--
'DeCSS would be fine. Where is it?'
'Here,' Montag touched his head.
'Ah,' Granger smiled and nodded.
Oskar Sandberg
md98-osa at nada.kth.se
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:00:42 -0500 (EST)
From: "Mark J. Roberts" <m...@statesmean.com>
To: <devl at freenetproject.org>
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Please Examine 0.3.7
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
On 3 Feb 2001, Mr.Bad wrote:
> Hey, so, I put freenet-0.3.7 up. I'm hoping I got it all right -- it
> seems that way, at least.
>
> I left out a lot of cruft, and optimized stuff, but the packages are
> like 100Kb smaller than 0.3.6. Hopefully I didn't leave out -too-
> much. Comparisons of the two filesets seems to suggest that the new
> one is correct, though. So go figure.
You can omit the multipart file clients. The Manifest format is not final
and should NOT be used.
> I used the ant buildfile for this, but I also used the mkDist.sh and
> they came out with almost identical output.
>
> Hammer away, folks.
>
> ~Mr. Bad
>
>
--
Mark Roberts
mjr at statesmean.com
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:04:36 -0500
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Aardvark
From: "Scott G. Miller" <scgmi...@indiana.edu>
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
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On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 02:36:41PM -0500, Chris Anderson wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Scott G. Miller wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > Okay, now you're just showing some obvious ignorance. The
> > encryption does not degrade the speed by 200x, doubtfully any more
> > than 2x.
>=20
> What are we measuring here? Local data access or network data=20
> access? Am I allowed to remove the local node from the speed=20
> calculation? Am I allowed to remove java's performance issues?
> I'll get you some numbers if you describe the exact performance test.
I know the CPU overhead for encryption or decrypting a byte of data versus
the performance of your network. Theres no way its 200x. =20
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Message: 5
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Please Examine 0.3.7
From: Mr.Bad <mr....@pigdog.org>
Organization: Pigdog Journal
Date: 03 Feb 2001 16:05:55 -0800
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
>>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad at pigdog.org> writes:
B> I'll take that back -- Sebastian found a couple of errors, I'm
B> fixing them, should be up in a couple of minutes.
BTW, the size discrepancy was because the .jar file wasn't compressed.
Strange, eh? I guess gzip and pkzip have much better compression than
.jar files.
~Mr. Bad
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| (X \x)
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:08:35 -0500
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Please Examine 0.3.7
From: "Scott G. Miller" <scgmi...@indiana.edu>
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
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On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 03:47:09PM -0800, Mr.Bad wrote:
> >>>>> "B" =3D=3D Bad <mr.bad at pigdog.org> writes:
>=20
> B> I'll take that back -- Sebastian found a couple of errors, I'm
> B> fixing them, should be up in a couple of minutes.
>=20
> Phew! OK, fixed. Again, try the downloads, the Windows install is up
> there too.
You forgot to make the unix scripts executable before you put them in the
tar.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 01:29:17 +0100
From: Sebastian Spaeth <sebast...@sspaeth.de>
Organization: University of =?iso-8859-1?Q?Link=F6ping?=
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Please Examine 0.3.7
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
"Mr.Bad" wrote:
> B> I'll take that back -- Sebastian found a couple of errors, I'm
> B> fixing them, should be up in a couple of minutes.
>
> BTW, the size discrepancy was because the .jar file wasn't compressed.
> Strange, eh? I guess gzip and pkzip have much better compression than
> .jar files.
No, I alway WinZip my freenet.jar with max compression and gzip isn't
that much better. I rather supect that already compressed files have a
bad influence pn file size when embedded in another zipped file.
Sebastian
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:43:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Anderson <chris...@charm.net>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Aardvark
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001, Scott G. Miller wrote:
>
> I know the CPU overhead for encryption or decrypting a byte of data
> versus the performance of your network. Theres no way its 200x.
True... I don't have a 4 Gigabit network in my apartment. Maybe
in a decade or so.
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Message: 9
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Please Examine 0.3.7
From: Mr.Bad <mr....@pigdog.org>
Organization: Pigdog Journal
Date: 03 Feb 2001 16:44:41 -0800
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
>>>>> "SGM" == Scott G Miller <scgmille at indiana.edu> writes:
SGM> You forgot to make the unix scripts executable before you put
SGM> them in the tar.
Actually, no, I didn't. But the tar built in to ant seems to have
blown away the exec perms.
I'll spent some time trying to get ant to do that (no documented way,
checking the ant source...), but in the meanwhile I've done a
hand-built tar that should be up there in a few minutes.
Thanks,
~Mr. Bad
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| (X \x)
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Message: 10
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Please Examine 0.3.7
From: Mr.Bad <mr....@pigdog.org>
Organization: Pigdog Journal
Date: 03 Feb 2001 17:00:29 -0800
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
>>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad at pigdog.org> writes:
B> I'll spent some time trying to get ant to do that (no
B> documented way, checking the ant source...), but in the
B> meanwhile I've done a hand-built tar that should be up there in
B> a few minutes.
Done.
~Mr. Bad
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/\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad at pigdog.org>
\ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad*
| (X \x)
( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it.
\ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:14:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "Mark J. Roberts" <m...@statesmean.com>
To: <devl at freenetproject.org>
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Please Examine 0.3.7
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
On 3 Feb 2001, Mr.Bad wrote:
> >>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad at pigdog.org> writes:
>
> B> I'll spent some time trying to get ant to do that (no
> B> documented way, checking the ant source...), but in the
> B> meanwhile I've done a hand-built tar that should be up there in
> B> a few minutes.
>
> Done.
Looks good from my planet.
--
Mark Roberts
mjr at statesmean.com
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:19:27 -0500
From: Tavin Cole <ta...@mailandnews.com>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: [freenet-devl] 0.3.7
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
I noticed the freenet_config script was not in the tarball.
And of course we are still clobbering .freenetrc and .fproxyrc.
--
// Tavin Cole
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:31:16 -0500
From: Tavin Cole <ta...@mailandnews.com>
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: [freenet-devl] 0.3.7
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
Has anyone else noticed that the fproxy gateway on the 0.3.7 tarball
release is borked? I get:
HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found Connection: close Content-type: text/html
Network Error
Couldn't retrieve key:
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// Tavin Cole
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:53:12 -0500 (EST)
From: "Mark J. Roberts" <m...@statesmean.com>
To: <devl at freenetproject.org>
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] 0.3.7
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Tavin Cole wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that the fproxy gateway on the 0.3.7 tarball
> release is borked? I get:
>
>
> HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found Connection: close Content-type: text/html
>
> Network Error
>
> Couldn't retrieve key:
I don't see this.
--
Mark Roberts
mjr at statesmean.com
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Message: 15
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] 0.3.7
From: Mr.Bad <mr....@pigdog.org>
Organization: Pigdog Journal
Date: 03 Feb 2001 17:55:39 -0800
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
>>>>> "MJR" == Mark J Roberts <mjr at statesmean.com> writes:
MJR> I don't see this.
OK, I've got these problems fixed:
- gateway.html not added to the .jar
- freenet_config not added to tarfile
...and these should be up shortly.
One that I can't figure out is how not to clobber existing config
files. The .deb doesn't do it, but I don't think we can make a .rpm
not do it. One option is to have an install script in the tar file
that wouldn't clobber, but I don't think we want to wait on that for
0.3.7.
~Mr. Bad
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| (X \x)
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Message: 16
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] 0.3.7
From: Mr.Bad <mr....@pigdog.org>
Organization: Pigdog Journal
Date: 03 Feb 2001 18:25:51 -0800
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
>>>>> "B" == Bad <mr.bad at pigdog.org> writes:
B> ...and these should be up shortly.
Done (again).
~Mr. Bad
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/\____/\ Mr. Bad <mr.bad at pigdog.org>
\ / Pigdog Journal | http://pigdog.org/ | *Stay*Real*Bad*
| (X \x)
( ((**) "If it's not bad, don't do it.
\ <vvv> If it's not crazy, don't say it." - Ben Franklin
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Message: 17
To: devl at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Please Examine 0.3.7
From: Steven Hazel <s...@thalassocracy.org>
Date: 03 Feb 2001 20:30:49 -0600
Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org
"Mr.Bad" <mr.bad at pigdog.org> writes:
> BTW, the size discrepancy was because the .jar file wasn't compressed.
> Strange, eh? I guess gzip and pkzip have much better compression than
> .jar files.
.jar files are .zips -- you can use PKZIP to unpack them (or to create
them).
-S
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