I got spam from these people a while back, which made me decide not to join it. But who knows. There is another mailing list that started as a continuation of the talking at the conference in FS:
Subject: Welcome to the "p2p-hackers" mailing list From: [email protected] To: md98-osa at nada.kth.se Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:12:33 -0800 (PST) Welcome to the p2p-hackers at zgp.org mailing list! At the first O'Reilly Peer-to-Peer Conference in San Francisco in February of 2001, I had the pleasure of meeting and talking to hackers who were actively working on peer to peer systems. The first thing I learned is that we had different words for many similar or identical concepts. Much of the early conversation was simply trying to understand what the other was saying despite different terminology. The second thing I learned (thanks especially to Wes Felter's presentation), was that different p2p designers had made different architectural decisions on a few key points, and had never looked back after that early architectural decision. The third thing I learned (thanks especially to Branden Wiley and Seguei Osokino, and Wes Felter again) is that interoperability between different p2p file-sharing networks looks like an easier hack than I would have guessed. So here is a mailing list which I hope will continue the noble tradition of fraternization among p2p hackers. I would like to continue the process we've begun of generating common terminology, a common architectural taxonomy, and just "nuts and bolts" engineering chit-chat about things that are important to all of us, for example TCP vs. HTTP (vs. UDP?), MD5 vs. SHA1 (just don't use MD5!), bundled meta-data vs. referenced meta-data, and probably a thousand other important and interesting details. Mailing lists are living things, and I expect that I (or someone else) will have to replace this welcome message as soon as we evolve away from these initial ideas. Don Marti is the List Maintainer, and we are using his scheme of requiring approved registration but approving everyone who asks. The initial invite list is a bunch of hackers who have specific expertise and experience in p2p engineering, and who expressed interest in this list. Feel free to invite others that you know who can contribute to this list. Regards, Zooko To post to this list, send your email to: p2p-hackers at zgp.org General information about the mailing list is at: http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://zgp.org/mailman/options/p2p-hackers/md98-osa at nada.kth.se You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: p2p-hackers-request at zgp.org with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: <-- not quite that stupid --> If you forget your password, don't worry, you will receive a monthly reminder telling you what all your zgp.org mailing list passwords are, and how to unsubscribe or change your options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. You may also have your password mailed to you automatically off of the Web page noted above. On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 01:35:08PM -0800, hal at finney.org wrote: > A new mailing list is getting started to discuss general issues of > peer-to-peer style file-sharing systems like Freenet, MojoNation, Publius, > Gnutella and the like. Information is at: > http://www.transarc.com/~ota/bluesky/index.html. > > Their charter: > > The purpose of the mailing list is to foster discussion of design > and implementation issues related to the development of scalable, > decentralized storage systems of literally global scope. The > emphasis should be on technical descriptions and critique of > mechanisms providing efficiency, reliability, security, and similar > properties. Discussion of goals and semantics is also desirable, > while acknowledging that a diversity of systems will be built and > evaluated. Messages with primarily political, legal or philosophical > content are discouraged. > > It's got some smart people signed up although the traffic level has been > pretty low. Freenet developers might want to take a look - > > Hal > > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://www.uprizer.com/mailman/listinfo/devl -- 'DeCSS would be fine. Where is it?' 'Here,' Montag touched his head. 'Ah,' Granger smiled and nodded. Oskar Sandberg md98-osa at nada.kth.se _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl at freenetproject.org http://www.uprizer.com/mailman/listinfo/devl
