On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 11:31:20PM +0200, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 04:58:40PM -0400, Tavin Cole wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 10:49:18PM +0200, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 04:24:57PM -0400, Tavin Cole wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 10:08:12PM +0200, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 11:58:22AM -0700, Scott Miller wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > > > I agree that it may be too strong.  Perhaps you should drop it 
> > > > > > > > if it
> > > > > > > > exceeds some percentage of the total number of refs.  I do like 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > 'deleting from the top end' though.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Et tu Brute!
> > > > > > Come on, you have to admit its an interesting solution to both 
> > > > > > traffic
> > > > > > balancing and the ubernode problem.  It might also shake up the 
> > > > > > system a
> > > > > > little by causing entrenched nodes to re-evaluate the routes by 
> > > > > > having
> > > > > > to find alternate routes for keys going to the most popular route in
> > > > > > their datastore.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The percentage thing is too arbitrary, it rubs me the wrong way.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My reaction, though, was to both of you presenting these as solutions 
> > > > > to
> > > > > the honest cancer issue, given the first rule.
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, come on.  This is not about "distrusting" a node...
> > > 
> > > If you use it as a way to keep a node from fucking with you, then yes it
> > > is.
> > 
> > Naah, this is simply about preventing any node in your routing table
> > from having more references than the other nodes.  Which is why I
> > still don't think it's overly strong.  Particularly because I value
> > the "shaking up" effect Scott noted.
> 
> Yes, but it doesn't stop one party from having more references than
> other parties, so it cannot be considered to address honest cancers at
> all.

You mean network-wide?  It certainly does deter one party from having
more references than another within the same node.  And don't you think
it would therefore be a deterrent, network-wide?

The operator of an honest cancer node would really have to walk a
tightrope to keep a presence in as many other nodes' routing tables
as possible, yet without becoming the local ubernode too rapidly.

-- 

# tavin cole
#
# "Technology is a way of organizing the universe so that
# man doesn't have to experience it."
#
#        - Max Frisch


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