Timm Murray wrote:

>>From: "Scott G. Miller" <scgmille at freenetproject.org>
>>
>>All we need now is an arsenal of kickass freenet client apps.
>>
>>Status of traditional internet applications, and their implementation (or
>>lack thereof) over Freenet:
>>
>>1) Web browsing - now working well :)
>>
freenet doesnt seems to work well so does the web browsing

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>>2) Email - nothing yet - apps urgently needed - either dedicated freenet
>>f-mail application, or (preferably) POP/SMTP servers to support any email
>>
maybe imap local servrer java application with ssl included fotr paranoid


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>>client in the way that fproxy/fcpproxy supports any web browser. This would
>>be best if it uses openPGP libraries, and supports automatic key exchange,
>>even runs a central in-freenet PK service.
>>

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>>3) Chat - nothing yet - value of this could be questionable because of rate
>>of key insertions required, and their effect on Freenet
>>
>>4) Usenet - the FMB beta client is an excellent start - it needs to support
>>n 'newsgroups' instead of just one.
>>
and even fmb could be converted in a nttp proxy

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>These last three things were being done by the EOF project, but I never much 
>liked the implementation of them. The e-mail and usenet were implemented using 
>servlets (ick), and chat--as you said--is of questionable value (but EOF has a 
>history of doing crazy stuff, so we'll probably do it anyway).  Of the three, 
>usenet is probably the best idea.
>
>BTW--EOF is now becoming a standards body for implementing other Internet 
>protocols over Freenet. Code coming out of the project, if any, will consist 
>of referance distributions.
>
>>5) File-sharing - while the Napster and Gnutella protocols as they stand are
>>totally impossible within Freenet, many concepts can be borrowed and adapted
>>into a scheme well-suited to Freenet, and front-ended with a specialised
>>Freenet client. Search functionality is also very possible - some of FMB's
>>architectural concepts could be borrowed for this (provided that FMB isn't
>>filed under a software patent (...just kidding!)).
>>
>
>While no centralization should be put into Freenet itself, no one can stop a 
>client writer from putting centralization in their client if they so choose. I 
>would probably build a Freenet file sharing system using Freegle as a 
>front-end.
>
>>6) FTP - not supported yet - repositories of downloadable media files are
>>presently implemented as a loose network of inter-linked freesites - scope
>>exists for a freenet client to be implemented as a localhost FTP server,
>>which inserts files that are picked up by an anonymous master server, which
>>re-inserts these files under a master tree. Enumerated keys instead of
>>date-based SSKs. Through using SSK public or private keys under the root,
>>the FTP server can support the FTP client in inserting and requesting keys.
>>
>
>Some months ago, someone on the EOF lists mentioned that they were working on 
>a FTP-Freenet client.  I think he got it working, too.
>
>>7) CVS - nothing done yet, however the idea aroused interesting discussion
>>on #freenet recently, where developers rated the idea as viable.
>>
>>Cheers
>>David
>>
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