On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 04:30:44PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 11:26:17PM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
> > and the widespread use of God aweful network
> > flooding applications like "Frost"
>
> Ooh, that is a harsh way to treat Freenet's first real client
> application. I like to think of Frost as a way to motivate us to harden
> Freenet against DDOS attacks ;-) Of course, I will be much more
> impressed by frost when they implement think-cash</flamebait> ;-)
Think-cash cannot be perfect, will unnecessarily burden users (people
don't like having to figure out puzzles every time they post things),
is hard to implement securely (for its reliance upon the client side),
and will be likely to defeat if one has access to the source code for
it. I don't trust it, and don't think it's a good idea.
> > Beyond this lies the use of real load balancing in the protocol by
> > having nodes weigh the probability of reseting the DataSource against
> > their relative load on the network - but I think we can leave that for
> > another day.
>
> Yeah, that sounds easily initially, but may not be. It would require
> nodes to somehow decide whether they are above or below average, which
> would require trusting information given by other nodes in the network,
> a mechanism that could be exploited for an attack.
Maybe by comparison with other nodes in their own datastores, instead
of against the same item in other nodes, which would give one the
advantages of this without the security problem that you brought up.
--
Yes, I know my enemies.
They're the teachers who tell me to fight me.
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission, ignorance,
hypocrisy, brutality, the elite.
All of which are American dreams.
- Rage Against The Machine
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