I think this is a very good idea, but might not work for very large freesites. Maybe there could be some metadata that says whether the files are individual or inside of a jar file. That way a freesite with a 1gb of content won't have to insert one huge file, (and visitors won't have to download it), but a smaller freesite could. What does everybody else think?
--Reuben --- Tyler Riddle <triddle_1999 at yahoo.com> wrote: > This was posted to tech at freenetproject.org but I did > not see any word of here or any activity regarding > it > on the tech list so I'm posting it here. This is > something I have been advocating for a while (not > entirely in this manor, but the functionality is the > same) and I also posted to tech@ some time ago and > got > ignored as well. This would be a great feature but I > see a huge potential for abuse as well. I think it > would be worth it to discuss how to pull this > particular feature off if it is at all possible with > out bringing the network to it's knees. > > Tyler > > Begin original message: > > The problem: > Freenet is slow. Loading a freesite from an > activelink > takes a long > time, and when you finally get the HTML file, it > takes > even longer > before you see the graphics (assuming you get to see > all of them). If > you then navigate to a secondary page of that > freesite, odds are that > it won't even load. > The problem isn't one of bandwidth, but one of > latency. For each file > that is needed, one or more key(s) must be > retrieved, > and for each key > that is needed, a little "roamer" is sent out on the > net to visit each > and every node (within a radius) one by one, hoping > to > run into the > sought after key and come home with it. This takes a > long time. I > therefore submit that, because of this, it takes > much > longer to > retrieve ten 10KB files than it takes to retrieve > one > 100KB file, it's > the nature of the beast. Furthermore, since it takes > ten little roamers > to retrieve the ten keys and only one to retrieve > the > one key, it > causes ten times the traffic on the net, compounding > the problem. > A solution: > JAR files. Take the few HTML files and the few > graphic > files that make > a freesite, pack them in a .jar file and insert it > at > a "/site//" type > URI. URI's like "/site//index.html" and > "/site//images/activelink.gif" > would retrieve the .jar file and extract the target > file. > The advantages: > 1. you only need to retrieve one file to render a > complete freesite > (including secondary pages). > 2. by doing so, you replicate the whole site, not > just > the page(s) you > visited. > 3. activelinks replicate the whole site as well. > 4. the .jar files are compressed, improving DS usage > and transmission > times. > 5. insertions are faster and more efficient. > 6. chatter on the net is reduced dramatically. > 7. using real .jar files leverages existing > technology > in the JDK. > 8. users could even use the jar tool to create them > (until insertion > tools get smarter). > A few things to keep in mind: > 1. the .jar files should be kept under 1MB to keep > them from splitting > (and for practical reasons). > 2. freesites should not include files for download > in > the .jar files, > instead they should be inserted separately and > linked > to by CHK. > 3. .jar files not accessed through a "//" URI should > simply be > retrieved. > 4. users can still use other methods if they prefer > (maps/manifests). > This simple feature has the potential to greatly > improve Freenet's > worst perceived shortcoming. > Yves Lempereur > > ===== > AIM:rllybites Y! Messenger:triddle_1999 > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > devl mailing list > devl at freenetproject.org > http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ devl mailing list devl at freenetproject.org http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
