I did, and you didn't respond to my point. Why do you want to force users to continue to use the current insecure, centralized, and hideously inconvenient opennet for a second longer than a more secure, decentralized, and convenient opennet option is available?
Ian. On 15 Aug 2006, at 06:28, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Read my reply to the other thread. > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 10:43:15PM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: >> One point, to be clear, is that nothing here will prevent those that >> wish to only have their node talk to people they trust, from doing >> so. We are talking about opennet for those that want the >> convenience, and darknet for those that need the security. >> >> Ian. >> >> On 14 Aug 2006, at 22:24, Ian Clarke wrote: >> >>> I really don't understand all of this fretting and hand-wringing >>> about opennet. Its basically nothing more than a vastly better way >>> for people to do what they are already doing today with hideous >>> (but regrettably necessary) kludges like #freenet-refs and http:// >>> refex.s-coding.nl/. >>> >>> Opennet has the following advantages over what people are using now: >>> >>> - Several orders of magnitude more convenient for users (allowing >>> ease of use approaching or exceeding mainstream P2P apps) >>> - Decentralized and scalable >>> - Should lead to vastly better network topology >>> - We control it so we can take measures to make it more difficult >>> to corrupt >>> >>> Disadvantages? Relative to what people are using now - none that I >>> can think of. >>> >>> Some people may wish we lived in a fantasy world where everyone was >>> willing to go through the trouble of carefully establishing trusted >>> darknet connections, but we don't live in this world, and denying >>> the clear advantages of opennet to our userbase will not lead to >>> that fantasy. >> >> Ian Clarke: Co-Founder & Chief Scientist Revver, Inc. >> phone: 323.871.2828 | personal blog - http://locut.us/blog >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Devl mailing list >> Devl at freenetproject.org >> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > > -- > Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org > Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl Ian Clarke: Co-Founder & Chief Scientist Revver, Inc. phone: 323.871.2828 | personal blog - http://locut.us/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20060815/a5ef0e74/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20060815/a5ef0e74/attachment.pgp>
