On 8/17/06, Ian Clarke <ian at revver.com> wrote:
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> On 17 Aug 2006, at 09:58, Matthew Toseland wrote:
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> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 09:37:02AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
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> I don't believe that the darknet and opennet will be weakly connected
> as you suggest, but neither of us can no for sure until we see it.
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> We can know for near certain that darknets operating in hostile
> environments will be weakly connected to the opennet, and probably to
> other darknets too, for the simple reason that they CANNOT use opennet.
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> No, but they can be connected to peers outside the hostile environment that 
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Can they?  If the outside peer is promiscuous, then it can be
harvested (with some greater amount of effort than for 0.5, right?).
So can't a hostile gov't harvest external promiscuous nodes and block
all traffic to / from them?  Then you'd need a user behind the
firewall to connect to a darknet-only node outside the firewall, which
would then connect to promiscuous nodes via darknet connections.

That might be a problem...  And it's definitely a way in which having
an open-net hurts the darknet (though I do agree that we have a
defacto open-net right now).

Evan

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