On 8/17/06, Ian Clarke <ian at revver.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 17 Aug 2006, at 09:58, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 09:37:02AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: > > I don't believe that the darknet and opennet will be weakly connected > as you suggest, but neither of us can no for sure until we see it. > > > We can know for near certain that darknets operating in hostile > environments will be weakly connected to the opennet, and probably to > other darknets too, for the simple reason that they CANNOT use opennet. > > > No, but they can be connected to peers outside the hostile environment that > can be promiscuous. >
Can they? If the outside peer is promiscuous, then it can be harvested (with some greater amount of effort than for 0.5, right?). So can't a hostile gov't harvest external promiscuous nodes and block all traffic to / from them? Then you'd need a user behind the firewall to connect to a darknet-only node outside the firewall, which would then connect to promiscuous nodes via darknet connections. That might be a problem... And it's definitely a way in which having an open-net hurts the darknet (though I do agree that we have a defacto open-net right now). Evan