On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:52:33PM -0600, David Sowder (Zothar) wrote:
> Colin Davis wrote:
> > It solves #2- Don't run things you get in e-mail..
> >
> > Instead of requiring a Noderef, allow someone to connect with just a 
> > password, and the IP address. This is something you can TELL someone, or 
> > say in an IM, no file transfer required.
> >   
> I don't think we should necessarily categorically discount a fred-based
> installer distribution servlet because of NAT problems.  What if we
> allow decoupling the installer from the noderef?  Then those that can
> overcome or don't have the NAT problem can host the installer. 

They are a sufficiently small fraction of the overall target audience as
to be uninteresting. UP&P would make them a large enough group to be
interesting, although still only something like 50% because UP&P is
extremely unreliable from what I have heard.

> If I,
> for some reason, cannot host the installer, perhaps one of my peers is
> willing to share their installer hosting such that I could get "access
> keys" from his node to pass out to my friends and include my noderef
> from the distribution area of FProxy in the email I send to my friend
> with the "access key".  My friend saves the attached noderef (which was
> attached as a file with a .fref extension) to a file, connects to the my
> peer's installer host, uses the "access key", which will probably be
> part of the URL, and downloads and installs the node.  Then my friend
> can double click on the .fref file he downloaded, which includes a
> one-time code generated by the distribution area of my FProxy (or FCP
> server) that my node uses to authenticate the addition of a node I
> didn't already have the noderef of.  Node installed in a decentralized
> way.  Peer connection created.

This is not very clear. Please divide into what friend A does and what
friend B does.
> 
> Pass phrases could work, but I think they should have something like a
> 32 character minimum length.  (I wonder if there are passphrase
> dictionaries yet.)

Passphrases from movies or well-known-people are probably in a big list
somewhere.
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