On Saturday 17 March 2007 08:53:10 Jerome Flesch wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm currently writing some specs for a moderable board system:
> > > http://wiki.freenetproject.org/AnotherBoardSystem
> > >
> > > But before continuing I would want to know if someone can tell me if it
> > > could work or not at all (only on a technical aspect please) ?
> >
> > I think it could work . You talk about the thread all being within one 
file,
> > which you say will take a long time to download. However, that's the case
> > with Frost now by default, and it hasn't been a problem. You do, however,
> > have to check all the previous posts against their copies in the originals 
as
> > well as, as you mentioned, checking they're still there.
> >
> > I know the advantage is that the whole thread appears immediately rather 
than
> > now in frost where later posts arrive and then previous ones trickle in, 
but
> > unlike frost you know which to download to complete the thread, so it's 
not
> > so much of a problem, at least considering the security complications it
> > generates. I think you might be better off with 1 post == 1 insert.
> >
> Hmm, yes, someone on Frost makes me notice that if a "bad guy" inserts
> an empty thread list, all the clients will try to re-insert it
> simultaneously.
> 
> 
> > I'm not sure the thread list file is necessary - why not just use 
predictable
> > sequential keys like frost does now?
> >
> In fact it should be done also for the messages, because the same
> attack is possible on them. I will have to redesign it ... :)
> 
> 
> > > The final idea here would be to add it to Thaw.
> >
> > I though Thaw was an interface to the Freenet transfer queue, not a 
messaging
> > program? Are you going to be adding a desktop publishing program to it as
> > well? ;)
> >
> At the moment, I see Thaw as a Swing interface to the Freenet node
> (after all, Frost will be also an interface to the Freenet transfer
> queue, no ?)

Ah, okay. But surely that means that this functionality would be added to the 
node then, along with an FProxy and FCP interface to it; Thaw supporting the 
latter? (It would also imply that Thaw will first get support for 
adding/removing/viewing darknet peers, editing config options, and the other 
things that are available through FProxy...)


Dave

> 
> 
> > That's all I can think of right now apart from adding the point that no 
posts
> > is ever actually made inaccessible by the moderators - they're
> > only 'advising' the readers (or their clients) which messages they think 
are
> > legit. Even the 'deleted' messages are still fetchable.
> >
> Yes, of course. Since you can't remove any files from Freenet ... :)

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