* Julien Cornuwel <batosai at freenetproject.org> [2008-08-08 20:23:38]:

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> NextGen$ a ?crit :
> > * Julien Cornuwel <batosai at freenetproject.org> [2008-08-08 13:52:15]:
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> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> A user (on IRC, french channel) suggested that we made the
> >> configuration/wizard clearer about the choice of opennet.
> >>
> >> He didn't understand that he could start with opennet, get some
> >> connections with his friends and then stop opennet. He thought it was
> >> either full-darknet or full-opennet and he had to choose.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> > 
> > The user is right:
> 
> No. he also thought that he couldn't connect to his friends if he had
> opennet activated.
> 
> > You seems to be missunderstanding the issue here: as soon as you've ticked
> > the opennet box, your node will announce and your ISP (if smart enough) will
> > know that you are running freenet.
> 
> I understand that issue. But your ISP can already have serious hints by
> your connections to downloads.freenetproject.org and a sudden increase
> of your traffic. At the moment, Freenet isn't illegal. So the ISP
> knowing it is not a big risk.
> 
> We all agree opennet is bad. But we should also accept the fact that,
> for most users, it is the only way to join the network. We can't
> seriously offer a feature an tell every users not to use it, right ?
> 
> > Switching to darknet afterwards won't help: your isp knows that you're
> > running freenet and that's probably all he needs.
> 
> If we go this way, we will end up removing opennet from the code and
> removing all documentation from the internet. After all, if the only way
> to discover Freenet is to connect to a friend, then he can also tell you
> how to install it...

I haven't ever been advocating for opennet. If it was up to me it wouldn't be
implemented at all.

NextGen$

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