* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-12-11 16:26:37]:

> IMHO we should ship a full bundle-installer by default, i.e. one including 
> the 
> latest main jar, the latest extra jar, the latest plugins.
> ADVANTAGES:
> - Security: Once you have obtained the installer, somehow (over Tor, from a 
> friend, etc etc), you can run it without needing to fetch it from the 
> website. People in hostile environments won't accidentally fetch the wrong 
> version of the installer over Tor and then run it and reveal themselves. And 
> us having less idea how many people are running it is arguably an advantage.
> - Performance: The actual installation should take less time to complete.
> - Simplicity: It would reduce the number of stages in the install, especially 
> for non-IzPack installers.
> DISADVANTAGES:
> - People will sometimes download an installer and then run it months later. 
> Resulting in an old version being installed. This should update itself, but 
> only after configuration, and will slow down the process of getting started 
> with Freenet significantly for a new user.
> - Websites (or even magazines with physical DVDs) may mirror old versions of 
> the installer. Again resulting in an old version being installed.
> - Statistics: We would not get the reasonably reliable statistics on how many 
> people install Freenet that we do now.

It has been discussed over and over and over again; I told you I am
against it and why numerous time... now if you want to do it, just do it
but stop wasting everyone's time making us argue again.
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