* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-12-11 16:47:23]:

> Zero3 has been working on a simple, fast windows-specific installer using 
> AutoHotKey.

Good for him

> AHK is GPL, runs well under Wine according to winehq, and has a 
> command-line compiler. Wine can be built without the X libraries and does not 
> need root privelidges.

Good for them.

> So this can be done under a single restricted user. 
> However, if we go for the full bundle approach, we would need to trigger a 
> rebuild of the windows installer after successfully deploying a new stable 
> jar.

We don't do that for the main installer; we do it only for mandatories:
why exactly should that one be handled differently?

> This does NOT necessarily mean running it under the user that builds the 
> main jars: a simple protocol involving creating files and waiting for inotify 
> will probably suffice (something similar happens already with the jars and 
> the website).
> 
> First, are there any unresolvable security issues? And do they specifically 
> relate to bundling?
> 

They are and they relate to auto-building the installer, not bundling in
itself.

> Second, is this a good idea in any case?
> 

No... More details in other emails of that thread.

> Advantages:
> - Probably a smaller download.
> - Can transparently  auto-download Java if needed (unless proxy settings are 
> required, in which case Freenet itself probably won't work).
> - Much more control over the install process, so we can have far fewer steps 
> where the user has to click "Next", especially if we go for a 
> bundle-installer.
> - Since we're moving all the config into the post-install wizard, there 
> should 
> be very little maintenance required.
> 
> Disadvantages:
> - Have to do some work on emu.
> - Very few of the developers run Windows, or are familiar with AHK, so if we 
> DO need to change this, it will be a little problematic.
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