On Wednesday 31 December 2008 14:48, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-12-31 14:23:01]:
> 
> > #1: 41 votes : release the 20 nodes barrier
> > 
> > "most of the users nowadays have a lot of upload-bandwith available. 
Myself 
> > has about 3Mbits upload, but the limit to connect to not more than 20 
nodes 
> > results in about 50kb/s max. Please release the limit or use a dynamic 
system 
> > that offers more connections if the node has a high bandwith upload limit 
> > (scaling). Thx"
> > 
> > I'm not sure what to do about this. The original rationale for the 20 
peers 
> > limit was that we didn't want to disadvantage darknet nodes too much on a 
> > hybrid network, since they will not often have large numbers of peers. 
> > Combined with experience on 0.5 suggesting that more peers is not always 
> > better, a security concern over over-reliance on ubernodes, and the fact 
that 
> > we should eventually be able to improve bandwidth usage through better 
load 
> > management. However, there's a limit to what we are able to achieve 
through 
> > better load management, and it's a difficult problem.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> Nah, the original rationale was :
>       - "it must be consistent with the default bandwidth limit"
>       - It has to be homogeneous network-wide (result of some
>         simulation work iirc)

I'm not sure there was a theoretical basis for this? We don't want to be too 
reliant on ubernodes, but I don't remember there being any theoretical 
problem with some nodes having 40 peers and some having 10. We should ask a 
theoretician.

>       - A low value will make flow analysis harder and might help with
>         sneaky QoS network policies

May be true.
> 
> As far as I know nothing has changed regarding any of those points: why
> should we change it?
> 
> > #2: 38 votes : one GUI for all
> > 
> > "For new (non-technical) users it may be very difficult to understand what 
> > they really need, how to do it and how to use it.
> > 
> > The entry point of an application plus its visible style, the user 
interface 
> > aso. are playing the biggest role for acceptance nowadays.
> > 
> > Therefore there may be the need of a GUI (I imagine one written in XUL, so 
it 
> > runs on all plattforms, easily extensible, aso., we are already using a 
> > custom firefox profile so why don't write our own user interface?) that 
> > provides all mechanisms that are available throughout the freenet network. 
> > File sharing, messaging, flogs, identity management and others."
> > 
> > IMHO part of this is simply an endorsement of the current not yet 
implemented 
> > policy to move everything possible into the web interface. A well designed 
> > web interface could be easy to use and responsive. There is an argument 
that 
> > we need an actual XUL app ... but this will be a huge amount of work to 
> > little benefit IMHO.
> > 
> > #3 tied: 33 votes : show a progress screen when loading a page (Filed by 
me)
> > 
> > "Is this a good idea? Would it make Freenet more user friendly if it 
didn't go 
> > off into limbo while loading a link?"
> > 
> > This is planned. IMHO we should implement it before releasing 0.8.0, it 
would 
> > be a significant enhancement even without real time updates with 
javascript 
> > support, provided it is not shown unless we have reason to believe the 
> > download will take more than 5 seconds. It is especially interesting if 
> > combined with some new content filters for e.g. audio files.
> 
> That's maybe 2 hours of work to do! Should be done already.

Agreed, it should be done soon.
> 
> > #3 tied: 33 votes : add a 'pause' feature
> > 
> > "It would be cool if it was possible to 'pause' a freenet node. I mean, 
stop 
> > all network traffic, warn peers that we are on pause, but keep the node 
> > alive.
> > 
> > That would allow short downtimes for online gaming without the hassle of 
> > having to restart the node and wait for it becoming usable again."
> 
> Like if gamers were going to use the feature... They will shut the node
> completely down anyway because that will allow them to reclaim a dozen
> of megabytes of virtual memory (and there is no hope of trying to
> explain to them that they shouldn't care about it because it's gonna be
> swapped if indeed they need that memory)

Well people are asking for it ... doesn't that suggest they would use it?
>  
> > IMHO offline mode is a good idea, especially when combined with a systray 
> > icon. It would also help with e.g. connections that are throttled or 
billed 
> > severely at certain times of day.
> 
> There is a branch for "bandwidth-scheduling" in svn
> (https://emu.freenetproject.org/svn/branches/bandwidth-scheduler) is
> wavey still around and working on it? what's its status?

AFAIK wavey disappeared. :|
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