An interesting recent conversation. Note the timestamps: it takes apple_juice 
over an hour to get his first freesite to load. I've duplicated his problem 
on a newly installed node and the cause appears to simply be that newbie 
nodes tend to get connected to overloaded nodes... It's not as severe, but it 
takes a loooooong time for the activelinks to load let alone any sites.

This always used to be the case on Freenet 0.5's sucky opennet too btw!

IMHO we will not get wide take-up (or good press) unless Freenet works 
satisfactorily *within minutes of installation*.

[17:14] <apple_juice> my freenet isn't working either, even tho i managed to 
get the service to start and i've gone through the wizard thing
[17:14] <apple_juice> it just keeps loading the pages.. without anything 
showing up
[17:14] <apple_juice> i've got 4 nodes connected, and 7 busy ones
[17:16] <toad_> :|
[17:16] <toad_> whenever i've installed a new node recently it's worked out of 
the box
[17:16] <toad_> give it a little time
[17:16] <apple_juice> ok, i'll wait some more
[17:16] <toad_> it should get up to 20 connections soonish
[17:16] <apple_juice> i'm really enthuziastic about thie freenet thing
[17:16] <apple_juice> adn i really wish it to work
[17:16] <apple_juice> ok,i'll wait a bit more.
[17:17] <toad_> also you should adjust your browser settings to use lots of 
connections
[17:17] <toad_> the README mentions this, also maybe the wiki does
[17:17] <apple_juice> ok, i'll do that
[17:23] <toad_> woah
[17:23] * toad_ tried installing a new node and got 6 connections instantly
[17:23] <apple_juice> i've got 18 nodes at the momment
[17:23] <toad_> and some freesite update notifications, although it hasn't got 
the activelinks yet
[17:23] <apple_juice> but it still won't load any pages..
[17:23] <apple_juice> no error, tho
[17:24] <apple_juice> it just waits
[17:24] <apple_juice> no transffer, etc
[17:24] <apple_juice> it waits for something.. and it doesn't receive it :)
[17:24] <toad_> :|
[17:25] <apple_juice> my opera browser stucks at: "Sending Request to 
127.0.0.1..."
[17:25] <toad_> with 18 nodes it ought to get there eventually
[17:26] <toad_> but to start with your peers won't be very good so will take a 
while
[17:26] <apple_juice> :o
[17:26] <apple_juice> i meant i have 18 PEERS at the momment
[17:26] <apple_juice> i'm not sure where i can find stats about my nodes
[17:27] <toad_> it should get better over time
[17:28] <apple_juice> well it's been stucked at "Seding request to localhost" 
for 4 minutes now..
[17:28] <apple_juice> with nothing loaded
[17:28] <apple_juice> :(
[17:28] <toad_> but i don't understand why it has such difficulty fetching 
content that ought to be cached *everywhere* ...
[17:32] <apple_juice> man, it takes too long, and nothing shows up
[17:32] <apple_juice> i think it's not working
[17:42] <apple_juice> toad_: so do you ahve any idea what is causing my 
problem?
[18:06] <apple_juice> what the fuck
[18:06] <apple_juice> it loads up the "Index des sites en fran?ais" page, but 
nothing else
[18:06] <apple_juice> anyone kknws why's that happening?
[18:19] <toad_> it takes a while to find connections that aren't hopelessly 
overloaded
[18:20] <toad_> that's the short version
[18:20] <apple_juice> how long does it take?
[18:20] <apple_juice> like more then 15 minutes?
[18:20] <toad_> yeah like a day
[18:20] <toad_> :|
[18:20] <apple_juice> you have to wait a day for a website to load up?
[18:21] * apple_juice raises an eyebrow
[18:21] <toad_> no you have to wait for a day for freenet to get enough good 
peers for websites to load quickly
[18:21] <apple_juice> do i have to do anything in the meanwhile?
[18:21] <apple_juice> or is it enough to let it run for a day
[18:22] <toad_> just leave it to run for a day
[18:22] <apple_juice> a'ight, cool
[18:22] <apple_juice> :)
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