On Tuesday 13 May 2008 00:24, Evan Daniel wrote:
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Ian Clarke <ian.clarke at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Matthew Toseland
> >  >> 2. Most or all Freenet apps assume a few seconds latency on requests
> >  >> (Frost, Fproxy, etc), yet the latency with the sneakernet would be
> >  >> measured in days.  Freenet's existing apps would be useless here.
> >  >
> >  > Not true IMHO. A lot of existing Freenet apps deal with long term 
requests,
> >  > which would work very nicely with sneakernet.
> >
> >  Such as?  FMS is pretty slow even with multi-second requests, do you
> >  really think it would be useful with multi-day requests?  I can't
> >  think of a single Freenet app that would be useful over a transport
> >  with multi-day latencies, it would be insane.
> 
> I'm pretty sure FMS is slow because it has a list of a few hundred
> identities to poll for messages, and it only polls 10-20 at a time.
> On a sneakernet you'd send all the poll requests at once.  There's no
> reason the delay on receiving a message couldn't be roughly the
> one-way latency of the path.
> 
> Downloading any sort of large media file can take days on Freenet
> *right now*.  People still do it.  What do I care whether the 4 day
> download delay is routing delay or bandwidth limit?

Precisely, this is the promise for non-hostile-regime operation where you may 
have more bandwidth over sneakernet than over your ISP's slow internet 
connection. IMHO it's a great way to build the darknet, and of course you can 
fetch the top few blocks over the UDP connection.
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