On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Matthew Toseland
<toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote:
> On Sunday 26 April 2009 01:14:34 Daniel Cheng wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Matthew Toseland
>> <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote:
>> > On Saturday 25 April 2009 04:13:39 Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> >> The SVN repository is read-only, and I have taken a dump. It will be
> posted
>> > to
>> >> Freenet soon and I will announce the location of the file, the gpg
> signature
>> >> etc. We might also put it on the mirrors network, but it is 281MB, so I
>> > dunno
>> >> if this is a good idea. In the meantime, the SHA256 checksum is:
>> >> 5417c7f26fc5baeb9fa2186194f70f00d2470d924a98c03f21561c4020f32538
>> >>
>> >> We are using github, and on nextgens suggestion (and partly due to
> security
>> >> issues with github) we will have for each sub-project two trees:
>> >> - The official tree. This is code which has been reviewed by a trusted
>> >> developer.
>> >> - The staging tree. All developers - just about anyone who asks for an
>> >> account - will have push access to this tree.
>> >>
>> >> Of course I will also take pull requests from devs who have their own
> trees.
>> >> Please post on devl if you think your tree is ready to be pulled; and if
> you
>> >> don't, it would be great to know about work in progress.
>> >>
>> >> IMHO the cost of the above arrangement is marginal: code has to be
> reviewed
>> >> anyway before we release it, and pushing it to the official tree does not
>> >> cost significant time. Testing builds can either be created as part of
> this
>> >> process or can be auto-built from the known safe official tree.
>> >>
>> >> Stable builds of freenet itself will be released from the official tree
>> > after
>> >> creating a tag. I will build them locally, sign the tag and the source
> code
>> >> tarball, and upload them both to the web and to the Freenet auto-updater.
>> >> IMHO this is the right arrangement for code run on newbie nodes,
> including
>> >> for plugins, but especially for anything inserted into the
>> >> auto-update-over-Freenet system.
>> >>
>> >> If you want access to the staging tree, please create an account on
> github
>> > and
>> >> email me the username. Sign your mail if possible.
>> >>
>> >> The github page, with a list of all sub-projects:
>> >> http://github.com/freenet/
>> >>
>> >> Notable sub-projects:
>> >>
>> >> fred (the Freenet daemon itself)
>> >>
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/fred-official.git
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/fred-staging.git
>> >>
>> >> contrib (freenet-ext.jar, currently doesn't include wrapper source)
>> >>
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/contrib-official.git
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/contrib-staging.git
>> >>
>> >> new_installer (the installer)
>> >>
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/java_installer-staging.git
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/java_installer-official.git
>> >>
>> >> wininstaller (Zero3's new windows-only installer)
>> >>
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/wininstaller-staging.git
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/wininstaller-official.git
>> >>
>> >> Freetalk
>> >>
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/plugin-Freetalk-staging.git
>> >> git://github.com/freenet/plugin-Freetalk-official.git
>> >>
>> >> And so on.
>> >>
>> >> I will sort out the rest soon, I have imported the most important stuff,
> the
>> >> rest should not take long. I will also sort out new scripts for building
>> >> stable builds etc.
>> >
>> > I have completed the conversion of the repositories. Some projects
>> > have -official and -staging and some do not. Specifically, anything which
> is
>> > bundled with Freenet, including all non-obsolete official plugins,
>> > have -official and -staging. Some libraries do. Old stuff, simulators,
>> > applications that we don't bundle etc, generally don't.
>> >
>> > Note that there are two possible URLs for each subproject, for example:
>> >
>> > Public: git://github.com/freenet/Thaw.git
>> > Private: git at github.com:freenet/Thaw.git
>> >
>> > Use the latter if you have write access, use the former if you're just
> going
>> > to clone and then ask somebody to pull.
>> >
>> > Most remaining work relates to building stuff and code review.
>> >
>> > Most plugins do not have individual build.xml's, they should, so that devs
> can
>> > build the jar and test it locally.
>> >
>> > There will not be any auto-build, at least for the time being, whether on
> fred
>> > or on plugins.
>> >
>>
>> Please enable the email / cia bot thing, you can find the setting under
>> https://github.com/freenet/<project name>/edit/hooks
>
> I am skeptical about diffs by email. Code should be reviewed directly from the
> repository, diffs by email is insecure.
>

On security -- I would agree with you.

But email is easier for casual reviewing / issue tracking .
We are in different timezones, we need some way to comment on code
when there are disagreement / something unclear. Email is the method
we used to.


And don't forget the CIA.vc bot -- I guess it have no security impact, right?
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