On Wednesday 26 August 2009 20:57:25 Artefact2 wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:21:40PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > On Monday 17 August 2009 19:58:29 Artefact2 wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 08:38:00PM +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > > Should we link to any more Freenet apps maintained anonymously on 
> > > > the default bookmarks? E.g. what is jFreesite, is it worth 
> > > > linking to? What about pyFreenetHg? What about this new 
> > > > IRC-over-Freenet thing people are telling me about? Etc...
> > > 
> > > Hello toad_, and sorry for responding to that old message (I just read
> > > it for the first time today).
> > 
> > I have absolutely no issue with responding to old messages. :)
> > > 
> > > Well, I am the author of jFreesite. So jFreesite is not maintained
> > > anonymously. I created a repo on Github so anyone can grab the source.
> > > I also put the jars on the Freenet network, in case grabbing the sources
> > > from github might be dangerous (that might reveal you use Freenet).
> > 
> > Okay, so we can link to it, and we should maybe think about reviewing and 
> > publishing it on the website sometime.
> > > 
> > > Well, I'm not currently improving jFreesite right now because it is
> > > usable and have the features I need. I don't want to make jFreesite a
> > > heavy app. There must still be bugs, I guess. But AFAIK I solved
> > > anything I encountered while I was testing and debugging my app. FCP
> > > support might be improved, but it works ATM.
> > > 
> > > So, if you want to include a link in FProxy's "Insert" page, or just
> > > talk about it on the website, why not. If you trust me enough, you can
> > > test it. If you don't want to, it's just a simpler, easier to use
> > > Thingamablog (and it makes any type of freesites, not only flogs).
> > > 
> > Fascinating... What we really need in this area IMHO is a web-based 
> > blogging interface:
> > - It must be as easy to use for a newbie as the centralised blogging sites, 
> > for writing blogs.
> > - It must support basic blog features - sort by date, tags, etc.
> > - It must have a web interface so it can integrate into fred as a plugin, 
> > and add itself to the Browse menu. IMHO this is important, and 
> > http://freenet.uservoice.com/ seems to agree.
> > - It should have at least two themes, and the default should look 
> > reasonable.
> > - It must support embedding pictures, linking to other freesites, and 
> > linking to arbitrary files. Eventually we will have embedded video, but 
> > that will require more work on other parts of fred.
> > - *Eventually* it will need integration with Freetalk, for posting 
> > comments, for announcing it in the first place, and maybe for the whole 
> > blog to be just showing somebody's top level posts... But p0s has a lot of 
> > work to do on Freetalk/WoT, and IMHO the earlier we have an easy to use 
> > blog tool integrated into the UI the better.
> > 
> > IMHO this would not be a big job, maybe a couple of days for a reasonably 
> > competent programmer, and it would both improve user retention and result 
> > in more freesites being published. I have a similar system in 800 lines of 
> > php sent to me by an associate, so it's really not hard. We should still 
> > link to the third party tools as alternatives, of course.
> > 
> > When you're not busy with writing fred themes, would you be interested?
> 
> Yeah, sounds fun. But i guess i'll take some time.
> 
It'll take a lot more time if it has to wait for me to get around to doing it. 
:)

But by all means concentrate on the UI stuff you've been doing lately for the 
time being, imho it's very helpful.
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