On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Matthew Toseland
<toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 January 2009 09:12, Daniel Cheng wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Colin Davis <Colin at sq7.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> We are prefetching them already. And we have a config option for that.
>> >> It's just too slow.
>> >
>> > I know I'm being terrible dense, but I don't see how this makes sense.
>> >
>> > Matthew had mentioned that the concern stemmed from the fact that the
>> > browser had a lmited number of connections to each host, in this case,
>> > to fproxy. This causes the browser to request two images, say A.jpg
>> > and B.jpg, and wait for them to download from the network before it
>> > requests C.jpg and D.jpg
>> >
>> > This problem is exacerbated with a great many pictures. If there are
>> > 27 pictures on a page, and the node requests them 2 at a time, it will
>> > take a very long time for the entire site to load. (Assuming it is
>> > larger than allowed in one container)
>> >
>> > If instead, fproxy were to parse the html, and start downloading every
>> > image file as soon as the html is finished, the browser-connection
>> > limit becomes almost irrelevant to the discussion; The node isn't
>> > downloading the pictures 2 at a time anymore, it's downloading as as
>> > it can, and then sending them to the browser (quickly/locally) 2 at a
>> > time, which takes immeasurably short time, compared to the pull from
>> > the network.
>>
>> It _IS_ doing this already.
>> See
> http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#KYLvKSOdAFc/trunk/freenet/src/freenet/clients/http/FProxyToadlet.java&q=prefetch\%28%20package:http://freenet\.googlecode\.com&l=136
>
> IIRC I disabled this because it didn't seem to improve performance on new
> nodes. Maybe it needs to be reconsidered - with a bit of javascript we could
> ensure that we only prefetch inlines when the user actually has the page
> open, and maybe we could boost the priority a bit...

That code _decrease_ the number of peers from 20 to 10 on low
bandwidth node -- of course it won't improve the performance. We are
talking about increasing it on high bw node here.

>>
>> But this don't solve the problem.
>> Suppose there is a page with lots of large, rare image on top and
>> small image on bottom.
>> The node can (and will) prefetch the small images immediately. But the
> browser,
>> due to connection limits, will only try to fetch the large images from node.
>>
>> >
>> > Where I get confused is trying to reconcile your statement that you
>> > are prefetching, with Matthew's argument that a custom XUL runner is
>> > needed because of the connection limits.
>
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