On Friday 03 December 2010 07:11:04 Volodya wrote:
> On 12/02/2010 10:49 PM, xor wrote:
> >> For example, we could make 1) more difficult if, any time we see two peers
> >> in the came class-B address range, we disconnect from both of them, or at
> >> least never route anything to either of them.
> >
> > Restricting the amount of connections from an IP subnet is definitely 
> > something
> > which should be implemented.
> >
> > However this might screw up performance because it might lead to people 
> > being
> > only connected to peers which are long-distance in terms of the Internet....
> > In the worst case you will only have peers from another country because some
> > countries have quasi-monopolistic ISP structures: For example in Germany 
> > there
> > is a large variety of ISPs but many of them use the backbones of the former
> > federal phone company which was converted to a private company less than two
> > decades ago and therefore still has the best infrastructure....
> >
> > Therefore, it should probably only be enabled with the "NORMAL" security
> > level... and it should be investigated how it behaves in practice.
> >
> > One useful measurement for that would be obtaining a "IP => Country" map and
> > displaying a country flag next to each peer, then even non-Freenet-engineers
> > could figure out whether their node is well connected.
> >
> > Further, I propose an additional and easier to implement improvement against
> > this attack: Provide a configuration option "Do not connect to strangers 
> > from
> > my country" which prevents Opennet connections to peers from the same
> > country...
> > - Attackers are very likely to be from the same country, both federal and
> > commercial ones.
> 
> While it's true i still hear of some ISPs in different countries which charge
> disproportionate amount for the traffic between countries. I had an 
> accointance
> from Portugal, and he said that it was only "2-3 am" when he had free traffic
> from other countries, and within Portugal it was free 24/7 (well after the
> monthly charges).
> 
> Also you will slow down the connection in some places (like Ukraine) where
> within the country the connection is quite fast, but it's complete rubbish to
> the outside world.
> 
> So what this feature can lead to is once again people going and looking to
> establish darknet connections to *just anybody* in their own country, making 
> the
> things worse rather than better.

Only if it's easy to do that.

As I have explained countless times, ANYONE you know personally, whether online 
or offline, is a good darknet peer. The only case where they are not a good 
darknet peer (compared to the alternative of running opennet) is if you used a 
matchmaking service specifically for getting Freenet peers, e.g. an IRC channel.
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