On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Matthew Toseland
<toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote:
> On Saturday 03 October 2009 03:41:45 Zero3 wrote:
>> Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> > On Monday 24 August 2009 17:03:21 Zero3 wrote:
>> >> Matthew Toseland skrev:
>> >>> On Friday 21 August 2009 20:12:39 Zero3 wrote:
>> >>>> Matthew Toseland skrev:
>> >>>>> Here's another one:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I accidentally built the installer with the beta branch. The tray icon
>> >>>>> worked, but when I uninstalled, and told it to do the survey, the
>> >>>>> survey failed (as usual), but control panel hung. Ideas? I think it
>> >>>>> might be waiting for firefox to close, but this is very bad behaviour,
>> >>>>> as there may be other stuff in firefox?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I don't think this is specific to the beta branch - we wait for
>> >>>>> firefox (or whatever browser) to close before closing control panel.
>> >>>> Nop, it will not wait for the browser to close. It will exit right after
>> >>>> launching:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [CODE]
>> >>>> If (_DoSurvey)
>> >>>> {
>> >>>> ?Run, http://freenetproject.org/uninstall.html, , UseErrorLevel
>> >>>> }
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Exit()
>> >>>> [/CODE]
>> >>>>
>> >>>> (The execute-and-wait-for-it-to-finish command is called "RunWait" as
>> >>>> opposed to the "Run" used here which will continue right away)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Are you sure that freenetuninstaller.exe is running while the control
>> >>>> panel hangs?
>> >>> I don't know. I do know that control panel hangs until the browser
>> >>> exists.
>> >> Odd. Maybe it also considers processes spawned by the uninstaller as
>> >> part of the uninstaller itself, and does not return control to the
>> >> control panel until all of these have terminated. Would make sense, as
>> >> uninstallers often continue in other processes than the originally
>> >> executed one (the wininstaller uninstaller included).
>> >>
>> >> Nevertheless, this is a design choice by Microsoft. If they want to
>> >> freeze out the user while any part of an uninstaller is running, I
>> >> shouldn't try to (and probably can't) get around it.
>> >
>> > There must be a way to detach it.
>>
>> There might be. No idea how much hacking it would take though. IMHO I
>> don't think the minor usability issue is worth the hack.
>>
>> On Vista I am able to close the control panel, although not start a new
>> uninstall before the browser is closed.
>>
>> >> A possible workaround could be to add a message to the survey completion
>> >> page simply asking the user to close the window.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately it's broken atm.
>>
>> Any update on this? Please at least remove the survey from
>> http://freenetproject.org/uninstall.html and replace it with a
>> "Temporary out of order" message or something. We are seriously wasting
>> people's time right now.
>
> Google might fix it. After all they're a multibillion dollar company whose
> services have been used by everyone...
>
> But they haven't, and they've had years!
>
> Is it possible there's something wrong with *how we use google spreadsheets
> surveys*, not with google's tools themselves?
There should be someone we can ask, no? If there's not support for
something available, whether via calling customer support or asking on
the IRC channel, I don't think we should be using it.
Evan Daniel
