On Monday 30 May 2011 14:47:24 Luke R. wrote:
> Hello,
> Welcome to the freenet-dev list! I myself am "not" a developer, but I am 
> working a bit on the UI (or at least trying to). I've made some icons in 
> Inkscape (.svg) for the interface. Trouble is, I'm not a CSS guru. 

Hey, we need icons too! :)

There are lots of places where icons can help, depending on the theme - talk to 
ArneBab I guess.

But if you can learn CSS too that's even better.

> We definitely could use some help on that. The entire interface should have a 
> theme that is more user-friendly. If you join #freenet IRC channel you can 
> discuss that with us.
> 
> Regarding file sharing, FreeNet isn't exactly cut-out for big uploads and 
> downloads. All though it can, it just takes forever. As an example you can 
> checkout the "Legal Downloads" flog on freenet, where linux distro are trying 
> to be mirrored for testing. The devs have been working on the speed problems 
> for years. 

True, but it has actually improved over those years, even if there may have 
been a small regression over the last year or so. (Which IMHO is at least in 
part caused by improvements to performance in terms of *data retreivability* 
i.e. how long content lasts).

I am interested in any figures people have.

> You can see the flog posts "Scream if you Wanna go Faster Parts 1-3" once you 
> join freenet. It's pretty technical...

Yeah, that's worth a post...
> 
> See you around. :)
> 
> --- On Mon, 5/30/11, Tom Elovi Spruce <i.love.comput3rs at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Tom Elovi Spruce <i.love.comput3rs at gmail.com>
> Subject: [freenet-dev] Greetings Freenet Devs
> To: devl at freenetproject.org
> Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 12:29 AM
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm a CS student who is more into design and art than I am with technical 
> implementation.  (However, I can't help but get obsessed with technical 
> details when the project asks for it.)
> 
> Anyways, I've talked with sanity on reddit and it seems you need some UI 
> contributors: 
> http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/ehep2/why_do_wikileaks_supporters_propose_designing/c1wm4y5
> Now let me make something clear, my interest in this project is to work off 
> what you guys are doing and create an application that serves a utility to 
> the general public. I want to create utilities in order to aid you guys in 
> the deployment of a censorship-free publishing platform that you strive to 
> create. Pretty much, I'm more into the non-political aspects of your project, 
> but I see no harm in helping your free-speech endeavors. (it's not like the 
> Chinese government is going to hunt me down, right? right!?). Nonetheless, I 
> would like to see Freenet grow in popularity in the same light as bitcoin and 
> bittorrent. 
> Moving on, I see two utilities with Freenet: 
> 1. Utilizing a darknet for creating an internet among friends. I see this as 
> a stepping stone for getting people started with the opennet. People love to 
> share files among their friends, what Freenet can offer is an easy-to-use and 
> robust sharing platform. 
> 2. Creating a free web publishing platform for everyone. This way, you can 
> convince people to be part of the opennet and get more nodes. Maybe this will 
> lead to having the opennet "feel" just as responsive as the typical 
> client-server platform of HTTP (I'm likely wrong on this; you guys know 
> better). In fact, this is what got me hooked on Freenet. This idea that you 
> have all these computers on the internet, why can't you utilize them to host 
> files instead of a client-server model? The hurdle I see with this is 
> convincing people that the information they will store on their computer will 
> not harm them or make them liable for the content they host for others. 
> Now I will be busy this summer, I have plenty of responsibilities to address 
> to. The best I can do as of now is to keep studying your current 
> infrastructure and, on my free time, create and share mockups to receive some 
> feedback from y'all. 
> Looking forward to...well whatever happens by the time it gets dark: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUvyUWhpRJY
> [insert valediction],i?computers
> 
> 
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