The Add menu I have either A) links to the CreatePage with the
appropriate arguments (i.e. if it's a subpage, it has the parms to
create a page w/ the space prefix in the page name, and the parent
set), or B to the "attachments" or "comments" view of the current
page. I have CreatePage panels, and while they go right to
xpage=create, the values for parent, etc. are still filled in, and the
name sanitized, etc. Allows people to start
page/space/comment/attachment creation from multiple places, but lands
them in a place consistent for insuring sane page/space/attachment
names, etc.
It is not always intuitive for some of my users to scroll all the way
down to the bottom of a page to add a comment or attachment. They
prefer the Add menu for that:
Add Menu (default action is the same as new subpage below):
New comment: redirects to the current page ?viewer=comments
New attachment: redirects to the current page ?viewer=attachments
New subpage: redirects to XWiki.CreatePage?parent=CurrentSpace.CurrentPage
New space: redirects to
XWiki.CreatePage?parent=CurrentSpace.CurrentPage&tocreate=space
CreatePage panel (custom):
Form action: action="$doc.getURL("view", "xpage=create")"
input type="hidden" name="template" value=""
input type="hidden" name="tocreate" value="page"
input type="hidden" name="parent" value="$tdoc.fullName"
So, our panels for creating pages are useful, and the menu items for
creating new pages and spaces are useful (as far as not creating
orphans goes). Having the values filled in, especially when they are
directed to XWiki.CreatePage helps to ensure that they recognize the
parent should be set...
On 10/16/07, Guillaume Lerouge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is an Add panel that users can already use if they need to.
> What's more, creating new pages from a panel (when those pages are not
> part of applications) almost always imply that those pages will be
> orphans, meaning that their value is - at best - low when not
> cross-linked to other pages.
>
> It would be better if a mechanism offered some kind of automatic
> linking process for new pages so that they could interact with other,
> existing pages effectively. However it is hard to offer a satisfying
> solution to achieve this aim at this point.
>
> As for the heart, a star would fit the bill as well plus it's already
> familiar to some users. I would actually suggest the replacement of
> both the heart in the top menu and the icon on profile pages with a
> star.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Guillaume
>
> On 16/10/2007, Erin Schnabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A HEART?!?!?! What is the world coming to... LOL
> >
> > Really, we need an Add menu. It may seem unnecessary to wizards like
> > us, but it was the first thing my "regular user" asked about...
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/13/07, Jean-Vincent Drean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Screenshots added :
> > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/RefactorActionMenu#H12M228proposal32CAKAyouthoughtyouwereinawebapp3F29
> > >
> > > 2007/10/10, Erin Schnabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > Hmmmmmmm... that last one (3) does seem pretty intuitive...
> > > >
> > > > I asked a manager (aka regular user) in my area to come and take a
> > > > look. She wanted the "Add menu" back (add comment, add attachment, add
> > > > subpage, add space).
> > > >
> > > > File/Page, Edit, Add, View, Watch, Documentation
> > > >
> > > > while I like what's in the File/Page menu thing, I still ... I dunno
> > > > -- the name bugs me for some reason..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/10/07, Jean-Vincent Drean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > To please the famous end-user, you know, the one who would be confused
> > > > > by an export entry ;) Those users who have "To print I go to FILE,
> > > > > then PRINT" engraved in memory in 30foot tall letters.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just kidding, as a developer and wiki user I'd prefer PAGE too.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2007/10/10, goldring, richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > Why FILE? - why not call the menu PAGE because that's what it is -
> > > > > > it's not
> > > > > > a FILE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > > > > > Jean-Vincent Drean
> > > > > > Sent: 10 October 2007 11:15
> > > > > > To: XWiki Developers
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UI] Top menu refactoring
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2007/10/10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * With the space we gained from "rename" and "copy", I think we
> > > > > > > can afford
> > > > > > > a whole "Whatch" menu item, that will contain "Watch this page",
> > > > > > > "Watch
> > > > > > > this space" and possibly "Watch settings..." for administrators.
> > > > > > > (And by
> > > > > > > the way, it allow, if the notification feature is disabled for
> > > > > > > some reason
> > > > > > > on a wiki, not to impact other menu lists - but I don't know if
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > disable notification feature will be)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You'll like my last proposal ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/RefactorActionMenu#H12M228proposa
> > > > > > l32CAKAyouthoughtyouwereinawebapp3F29
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > * I like the "Access Right" in the "Edit" menu, but that's maybe
> > > > > > > juste me
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, may be ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JV.
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