Hi Vincent,

> Hi Marius,
>
> Thanks for the feedback, see below.
>
> On Oct 31, 2007, at 11:39 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Due to some technical problems I had over the past few days I
>> haven't been
>> able to stay online too much so I'm gonna catch up with you guys by
>> telling you about my work status.
>>
>> 1. The new GWT based WYSIWYG editor is in 'stand-by' mode until I
>> have an
>> API for the WikiModel. You can see what I've done so far at
>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/NewWysiwygEditorBasedOnGwt#HThenewarchitecture
>> .
>
> I've had a talk yesterday with Ludovic and others and we think we need
> to start again working on the WYSIWYG editor since it's really
> important. However since the editor depends on the underlying
> rendering mechanism the idea would be to work only on the UI part for
> now so as to be prepared when the new rendering is done.
>
> In term of priorities, I think you should finish first the Stats
> features you're working on first and then move on to this if that's ok
> with you.

This is great news. I'd be more than happy to continue the work on the
WYSIWYG editor after I finish with the Stats page. Basically, I'm going to
develop a bunch of custom GWT widgets like the tool bar, status bar,
context
menu, rich text area, and so on, which are independent of the xwiki's
rendering mechanism. I'll plan this as soon as I'm done with the Stats,
and of course I'll let you know through devs list.

>
>> 2. Regarding the WikiModel, I scanned the code from
>> http://code.google.com/p/wikimodel/, I followed the discussion on this
>> list and I read general stuff about Doxia. So I look forward to see
>> Vincent's API for the WikiModel+Doxia.
>
> To be honest I'm disappointed by wikimodel. It's far less advanced
> than I had initially thought (basically it's only interfaces right
> now, even the parsers are not finished, and there are no listeners
> written for XHTML, etc).

I'm sorry to hear that.

>
> This is why I started looking at Doxia. My take is that the only
> interesting solution for xwiki is if WikiModel could join Doxia (which
> is more advanced and has more active contributors). I'm waiting for
> Mikhail's decision on this. The Doxia team would be happy to embrace
> his donation of wikimodel to Apache.

Looks like Mikhail has a tough decision to make. I bet he feels he's
loosing his "child". I know I would.

>
> On my side, I've started playing with Doxia and I've started a XWiki
> sink which allows converting from any doxia supported syntax to XWiki
> (Confluence, TWiki, etc). I'm going to continue working on this since
> 1) it allows me to know the state of Doxia better and 2) it's useful
> for us to have these conversion tools.
>
> I also need to send a new summary email to see how the suggested
> architecrture for the new XWiki rendering mechanism would work with
> Doxia. I believe it would work exactly in the same manner as with
> wikimodel though since they're very similar in their APIs.
>
> Thus the following step for me is to create a xwiki-rendering module
> in the core to start the rendering interfaces and the mapping to Doxia/
> Wikimodel. Unfortunately I'm busy on stuff for Javapolis (new
> xwiki.org web site + 1.2 release) and I'm working on this on a best
> effort basis. I shall be able to progress much faster after JP.

I look forward to seeing your proposal.

>
>> 3. I've created a plug-in wrapper for the JodaTime framework that is
>> now
>> available in both standard and enterprise distributions. I still
>> have to
>> write some selenium tests for it and of course the documentation on
>> xwiki.org, in the code/plugins area. You can find more details at
>> http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1820.
>>
>>
>> 4. I'm currently working on the Stats page. I almost finished
>> implementing
>> the java part and the next step will be to create the stats (in page)
>> panels using velocity and the chart macro. See
>> http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XE-37 for more details.
>
> Could you provide more details on this? Some questions:
>
> 1) Could you show us the UI part of what you're designing or what
> you're planning to implement? Maybe you could also ask Laurent Lunati
> for his help on the design part?

In one of my previous mails
(http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004346.html) I tried
to sketch the panels I'm going to put on the Stats page. I haven't got any
feedback since so I considered the layout was fine. Laurent's help with
the design would be appreciated. I can provide more details if needed.

> 2) Does your work require any change to the XWiki Platform Core? Or is
> it just changes at the application level (XAR)? If there are changes
> in the core what are the?

Yes, I made some changes to the core and I'll add some docs to the
enterprise XAR. See
http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004344.html for more
details.

> 3) What is your target date for finishing this task? We need to plan
> in which version we can have it (and we need it sooner rather than
> later ;)).

If you look at
http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004344.html you'll see
there 8 steps. I've just started the 6th step. Here's my planning:

step 6     : 1 day
step 7     : 3 days
step 8     : 1 day
debugging  : 1 day
unexpected : 1 day
------------------
             7 working days, starting from November 5th

So I hope I'll be able to show you the new Stats page on November 14th. Is
this ok?. Tomorrow (November 2nd) I'll finish with the jodatime plugin
(selenium tests and xwiki.org documentation).

>
> Thanks Marius for this feedback and the work you're doing!
> -Vincent

Thanks Vincent for your support!
-Marius

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