On Jan 22, 2008, at 9:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, sorry that for the misunderstanding on both sides :)
But I'm nevertheless not agree with Sergiu (but that doesn't
matter). I'll try to figure out how to do a running installation and
then I'll write a complete A-Z Howto for a Xwiki-Installation (for
my chosen apps/OS) and post it afterwards under Xwiki.org.
That's great news! Ping us when you're ready to write it so that we
can work together where to best place it on xwiki.org for max effect
and to prevent duplication of information with existing info there
(this is important since duplication means both maintenance and out of
sync info).
Cheers,
-Vincent
On Jan 22, 2008 2:38 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Vincent Massol wrote:
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 5:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2008 11:40 AM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> then you shouldn't try to install it!
>>
>> You could use an already setup xwiki farm instead.
>>
>> -Vincent
>> <http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs>
>>
>>
>> Boah, that's a bit harsh, don't you think? It's like the old Linux
>> developer behavior. I like to play with new technology, but I'm
not a
>> developer. I'm just a student who spend some spare time on IT-
topics.
>> I do that because it's fun for me and because I think, when I'm
>> becoming a manager in a company, I understand the IT guys better
and
>> that helps both sides. You on the other hand tell me I shouldn't do
>> that. Thanks a lot.
>
> No, no you've misunderstood me :)
>
> You were saying in your emails that you didn't want to try
installing
> xwiki and that you wanted to pay someone to do it for you. Hence my
> suggestion to use an already installed version for testing/using
XWiki
> (i.e. a farm install like netcipia, the pro xwiki.com farm, etc).
>
> I'm more than happy that you install it, actually I even prefer
that. If
> you follow this list archive you'll see we've always been
supportive and
> answered questions from people trying to install it. However since
> people are going to donate their time to help you, all we ask is
that in
> return you help the project in some way. For example you can do
this by
> improving the documentation or by writing a tutorial for newbie,
etc.
>
> I think our misunderstanding came from the email I saw from you
where
> you stated that you were not technical and that you wanted someone
to do
> the install for you..
>
> XWiki is very easy to install. Takes less than 10 seconds if you
follow
> the packaged distribution. Now if you want to do fancy things
(which you
> said you wanted to do) it's another matter which is btw completely
> separate from XWiki (Apache has nothing to do with xwiki, same as
> configuring your OS, knowing how to install a specific database,
etc).
>
I second that. All you need to know about configuring XWiki so that it
works behind httpd and tomcat is already documented. Setting up httpd,
tomcat and the link between them (mod_proxy or mod_jk) is NOT
something
XWiki must document. For example, the documentation for a game should
contain information about installing Windows, DirectX, drivers for the
video card, where to get a joystick from and how to install such a
device? I say no. The same is true here. XWiki is a web application,
comes packaged as a .war, and it is installed as any other .war.
Sergiu
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>
>> Thanks to the Howtos on www.Howtoforge.com <http://www.Howtoforge.com
>
>> I'm running a secured dedicated Debian server with fully automated
>> backup jobs, firewall and so forth and I'm not even a "real" Linux
>> freak. I was able to run a CMS with a forum, over 400 active
members
>> and over 1 Terabyte traffic a month (in 2 years, my server was
not one
>> time down). So what's the point? Technology is only for guys who
>> studied it? Well, I thought technology is only as good as ppl can
use
>> it. Right now you think XWIKI is only good to use it as a user,
but I
>> believe with a little bit more polished documentation, advanced
users
>> (I'm not talking about my grandma) could (I'm not saying they
have to)
>> be able to install it by themself. That's all I was asking (not
>> demanding, that's a big difference!) for.
>
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