On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Squirrel, > > If it were that simple! There's no silver bullet unfortunately. Adding > stuff that suddenly makes the application faster, better, etc with no > change to the application is very rare... :) > Or maybe I missed what you were saying? Well, I didn't mean no change to the application, I mean no bigger changes which would force the user to do some changes too. Ie. if you change some tables or changes new things / features who would break the customization the user did to the skin ie.. It's only general speaking, but as a user I don't want any surprises ;-) That's an interesting statement that requires more input: > > 1) Why do you need to upgrade? > 2) Why is hard to upgrade? 1) If something is new you can bet your a..money that the user want it. Beside often there are improvements which the user drools over. Sometimes they are security updates so you should update (I'm speaking now generally) 2) I'm coming from the Joomla! crowd and for me it was a lot easier to update my Joomla installation than the Xwiki. Also the installation itself was way more straight forward (ie. the config file was set up during the installation and stable even after updates). Nevertheless, I'm now a Xwiki user ;-) > Re the stable/branch/etc that's exactly what we do... :) > We have the milestones/RC that last for about 3-4 months so we only > release a new version every 3-4 months. We can hardly call this quick! > Moreover you should know that the longer a release the less stable it > is in general since there are more stuff in it. From a user point of > view the best is to get the shortest possible release cycle. This is > what ensures the best quality in general. The Hudson project for > example releases every day or every 2 days and that's the greatest > possible. I'd love that we be able to do that with XWiki and this is > my personal target. > > Thanks for your feedback. > -Vincent > I'm coming from the Joomla/Drupal corner and therefore I'm more used to longer release cycles for bigger improvements. I have nothing against frequent updates on the stable branch (security fixes, minor improvements) as long as they don't break things and somehow I have the feeling if Xwiki gets more attention from the general user side (not developers or advanced users) that could lead into trouble as users will start howling (but right now the entry barrier is too high for the average Joomla!-user, IMHO). I'm not so sure if it's indeed the best thing for the user to get daily updates, in the labor this might work, but out in the wild there are maybe way more side-effects and they need time to pop-up... However, my statements are not really qualified, so I'm sure you will do the right thing and I hope you get my statements not wrong in anyway. :-) _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
