> The good solution for this is to have an application manager component
> with the following features:
>
> * Install/Uninstall/Upgrade applications
> * Manage dependencies/prereqs between apps and with core runtime
> * Download updates from a remote repo (the first implementation should
> be done  with a maven remote repo) (since you need some info about the
> latest released version, etc and this exists in a maven repo)
> * Supports installing not only pages but also jars, skin extensions/
> interface extensions.
>
> This app manager would replace both the packager code in core and the
> current app manager plugin/application.
>
> What this means in practice is that your pages/extensions/plugins/etc
> (in XE, XWS or others) would be split into applications managed by
> this app manager. So when we update these apps we deploy them in the
> remote repo and all users get notifications of new apps through the
> app manager.
>
> Right now everyone is already busy: new rendering, new wysiwyg, new
> administration.
> What I'd like to do (in this order):
> 1) new rendering refactoring (for Sept)
> 2) new model and new related components
> 3) new storage and new query components
> 4) new app manager
>
> What this means is that I don't foresee the new app manager to be
> ready before next year (and probably more likely to be middle/end of
> the year).
>
> What it also means is that in the meantime you have 2 solutions:
> 1) make upgrades manual and list in the release notes the list of
> pages changed/added/removed and let admins update their installs
> accordingly
> 2) develop something ad hoc (something like what you propose I guess)
> with the knowledge that it'll be thrown away in the future and
> replaced by the app manager.
>
> WDYT?

Yes I cannot agree more : a proper application manager is the way to go :)
As for now, I think I will first try to not have this need, and if I
really have to, I'll do some ad hoc upgrading code, as solution 1) is not
applicable for my use case (upgrading tenth or more of workspaces -the
space abstraction, not the product itself- that is, adding new documents
in N existing spaces).

Jerome.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
>
>> Hello devs,
>>
>> I'm currently trying to find the best approach to automatically
>> upgrade an
>> XWS instance workspaces when upgrading the XWS version. By that, I
>> mean
>> adding new pages to existing workspaces for example.
>> I see at least two possible approaches :
>>
>> * On display of the workspace, we check that the considered pages are
>> present, and if not either we automatically create them, either we
>> offer a
>> big button to "upgrade" the workspace. (the test could be done in a
>> skin
>> template, so that any page would trigger the upgrade)
>>
>> * On plugin init, we search for all workspaces and upgrade the ones in
>> need. And we could have a marker once the upgrade is done, not to
>> execute
>> the query at each init.
>>
>> WDYT ? Are there other approaches I'm missing ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jerome.
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